• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        11·
        1 year ago

        unimpactful

        I take “unimpactful” here as being oblivious are aloof to others. You don’t have to be an asshole to treat someone poorly. That just requires not thinking of anyone but yourself, which is done by assholes, but can also be less severe and merely lacking compassion for someone because they’re here to do a job and not a person.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          6·
          1 year ago

          When somebody manages to actively be an asshole to random strangers they just met it’s actually kind of spectacular. Usually people can mask up at least a bit in public.

        • megane-kun@lemm.eeEnglish
          10·
          1 year ago

          To be fair, I’d understand if someone don’t want to be close friends with someone with depression. In my worst days (depression and other stuff on top of it), I don’t want to be in the company of anyone either. It would be very taxing to someone wanting to be close friends with me, so yeah, I’d understand why they’d just opt out of it and stay away.

          • IzyaKatzmann [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            5·
            1 year ago

            That’s fair, hurtful but fair. I’ve found that I tend to become frustrated or ashamed due to my lack of ability to help. Certainly completely blaming oneself isn’t ideal, and yet the personal investment gets me all sentimental :/

            I’ll reach out and invite them and try to have talks in depth, there’s only so much one can do given the circumstances and I operate in the grey area of ‘not knowing where’ to justify the extent of my involvement. This isn’t well received by others, rightfully so, and though they’ll admit I mean well how amenable is someone to someone else who they’ve known only for a bit to their excessive interest in themselves? I try to focus on providing bits of information as that is closer to being evidence-based rather than rhetoric to persuade them but it doesn’t seem to work and I’m a bit clueless on how to continue. Working with orgs makes it much easier, I don’t like the depersonalized approach and would like to find some way to incorporate it.

            • megane-kun@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Indeed. It’s really sad how it happens: someone’s depressed and is either too sad or irritated to be able to, or want to deal with anyone, which pushes people around them away—people who are in the best position to help them. Worse, while the depressed person can do something about it, the depression makes it hard to do anything about it! The path of least resistance is just to let people be repulsed. However, the path of least resistance leads downhill.

              Divining the forces of depression (and in my case, the vagaries of bipolar disorder) is already taxing enough for myself, let alone for anyone around me who has no idea what’s going on in my mind. Hence, I understand why someone would give up on me. It’s not their fault, and I understand that. There’s only so much people around me can do, and if my condition lightens up, it’s on me to reach out, let people know that I’m better at the moment. And if I can, alert people whenever things are turning for the worse.

              Having said all that, I’m not sure I understand what you meant by the latter part of your 2nd paragraph.

              • IzyaKatzmann [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Reading over it I also kinda don’t know. I was rambling more or less.

                I think I was trying to say I have issues connecting with people who have struggles of their own because they way I try to connect. When it’s done personally by myself it doesn’t work as well compared to doing the same through an organization. Like if you go to a food bank vs going to someone’s house you know for food. I could drop off the food at the food bank and the person who is struggling could take it and not feel as ashamed because it is depersonalized (no one single face to attribute). Whereas coming to my home to get the food directly would be perhaps more shameful or difficult since there is someone (i.e. myself) who can direct focused judgement upon them.

                I hope this didn’t make it more confusing. I might cut my losses and try not to explain it more before I get even more confused.

                • megane-kun@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  I think I get it, the gist of it anyways. I understood it as faring better in a more formal, but still being a social setting, e.g.: a mountaineering club meeting once a week, and occasionally goes up on group hikes. It’s way easier to connect with someone in that situation, since there’s already some common ground to stand on. It is a lot easier compared to trying to connect with a neighbor you know next to nothing about, much less a common ground.

  • silvercove@lemdro.id
    431·
    1 year ago
    • Belief in nonsense, such as astrology
    • Celebrity worship
    • Excessive social media usage, especially Twitter
  • Wonton Noodles@lemmy.world
    37·
    1 year ago

    If they are cheap/stingy but when someone else is paying they get the more expensive things. If someone is consistently frugal in all situations I don’t mind.

  • riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    282·
    1 year ago

    Someone who identifies very closely with hustle & grind culture. Someone who claims a personal brand. Someone who kisses up and kicks down.

  • mashbooq@lemmy.world
    261·
    1 year ago

    Who are these people who have so many choices in friends that they can afford to vet them?

    • Dubious_Fart@lemmy.mlEnglish
      182·
      1 year ago

      Its not so much having friends to vet them.

      its meeting new people that seem, for all intents and purposes, cool and mellow people.

      Then you make the mistake of sending them an off-platform friend request and are quickly brought to realization that the only thing keeping them cool and mellow was the platforms rules and reporting.

      I got duped like that once in a game, Kept running into eachother and playing together, so sent them an out of game friend request… Immediately received a massive tirade about what they really thought about trans people, and gays, and other various topics. 100% unprompted, and out of the blue 0-100 in .00237 second.

      The only reason I didnt immediately block them was because I was too stupified and took me a solid minute to gather myself. Ended up having to block them in game, too… Which I think resulted in them being banned, since they sent me a huge message in game about i must be one of those liberal trans homosexuals since i blocked him after his “truth” or whatever bullshit. Reported his ass, and never saw him again.

      Crazy is super good at concealing itself, until it thinks you are a compatriot.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
      35·
      1 year ago

      You’re only friends with people who can speak the same multiple languages or someone who speaks the only language you know?

      • redballooon@lemm.ee
        71·
        1 year ago

        “A” language, not “all” languages. The point being I can’t see how to become close friends without being able to talk to them.

        • Squizzy@lemmy.world
          34·
          1 year ago

          Exactly which is why I asked for clarification. Your wording can be read as “I speak English and French but this guy speaks English and Spanish so I won’t get to know them because they don’t know a language that I do”

  • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de
    142·
    1 year ago

    Refusing to participate in a civil discussion, but instead resorting to ad hominem (attacking the person not the argument) or refusing to consider the other sides argument. If they do this any minor dispute will escalate to a flame war.