I like calling it “fleshspace” when I’m interacting in person with someone I generally interact with online or over the phone, because I think it sounds funny, but I also like to think about the viscerality of meeting face to face. It’s entirely different being a body than just a voice online, y’know? I could start bleeding or cough or arouse them.

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I sometimes like to think in the ape terms but in an affirming and encouraging way. Like “hey, we have a polio vaccine, not bad for a buncha apes”. Or “man, that didn’t go well, but you know, we’re all just apes trying our best, and we’ll do better tomorrow.”