I will also say, the hairdresser here has probably been burned in the past by clients asking for a shorter cut and then getting pissed at them when it looks too “boyish” on them. You can always trim more off but you can’t put hair back on so I get why a hairdresser would opt for keeping it a bit on the longer side to avoid angry clients.
Yeah but the entire point is that hairdressers get that reaction you’re describing from clients who … well, happen to be women and the person in that comic isn’t a woman. That’s the entire point, that hairdressers really struggle to respect the gender identity of AFAB trans people. It’s super widespread. Every time i look in localized trans online spaces, i keep seeing posts by trans dudes and transmasc nonbinary people who desperately ask for trans inclusive hairdressers in the area because they reliably get a pixie cut every time they explicitly show a picture of a haircut as an example, and all the explaining doesn’t help them at all, it goes exactly like in the picture. Apparently it’s super fucking hard to find cooperative hairdressers as a transmasculine person who will just respect your gender instead of trying to feminize you.
Oh no I get that’s an actual struggle. Just saying a new hairdresser probably doesn’t know if a new client is NB, trans or cis so they probably just opt to do whatever they feel is the safest bet. But also maybe a lot of them are just being dicks, idk.
Then you say “I’m not a woman” and point at the barber’s chair (or point at discrimination laws)
Obviously there’s specifics to this, but sure, let’s do this: if you’re nonbinary, go to an NB friendly barbershop if that’s a possibility. If there are none close to you, go to a popular shop in a LGBT friendly city instead, and explain you’d like a “men’s” haircut. If that’s not a possibility, explain to your local barbershop that you’d like a men’s haircut, and that hairdressers are less experienced with that. If they are unable to, or you feel uncomfortable, go to a hairdresser and explicitly mention you want a men’s haircut, and show a picture, again mention you are comfortable with it being as short as in the pic. If they present something unsatisfactory, say “I’d like you to cut it shorter, please” when they ask whether you’re happy. If you don’t feel comfortable asking for a gnc haircut, then you’d have to do it yourself.
I had a knee-jerk reaction since I’m used to the reddit types who go “but what if___” because they just wanna be right about something, when that’s not conducive to the discussion
I am trad, but I bob my hair once a year in the spring and let it grow out for the rest of the year. It’s usually back to my shoulders before I get it cut again. I used to do hair donation and I would get hair dressers who were uncomfortable giving me a short cut all the time. Now if I get one who’s uncomfortable I tell the to give me the scissors and I cut my ponytail off myself in front of them. After I do that they know I mean business and get down to giving me the cut I want.
I will also say, the hairdresser here has probably been burned in the past by clients asking for a shorter cut and then getting pissed at them when it looks too “boyish” on them. You can always trim more off but you can’t put hair back on so I get why a hairdresser would opt for keeping it a bit on the longer side to avoid angry clients.
Yeah but the entire point is that hairdressers get that reaction you’re describing from clients who … well, happen to be women and the person in that comic isn’t a woman. That’s the entire point, that hairdressers really struggle to respect the gender identity of AFAB trans people. It’s super widespread. Every time i look in localized trans online spaces, i keep seeing posts by trans dudes and transmasc nonbinary people who desperately ask for trans inclusive hairdressers in the area because they reliably get a pixie cut every time they explicitly show a picture of a
haircut as an example, and all the explaining doesn’t help them at all, it goes exactly like in the picture. Apparently it’s super fucking hard to find cooperative hairdressers as a transmasculine person who will just respect your gender instead of trying to feminize you.
Oh no I get that’s an actual struggle. Just saying a new hairdresser probably doesn’t know if a new client is NB, trans or cis so they probably just opt to do whatever they feel is the safest bet. But also maybe a lot of them are just being dicks, idk.
https://strandsfortrans.org/
Prob get better results in that specific regard by going to a men’s barber shop
Except when they tell you “we don’t do women’s hair” and show you the door
Then you say “I’m not a woman” and point at the barber’s chair (or point at discrimination laws)
Obviously there’s specifics to this, but sure, let’s do this: if you’re nonbinary, go to an NB friendly barbershop if that’s a possibility. If there are none close to you, go to a popular shop in a LGBT friendly city instead, and explain you’d like a “men’s” haircut. If that’s not a possibility, explain to your local barbershop that you’d like a men’s haircut, and that hairdressers are less experienced with that. If they are unable to, or you feel uncomfortable, go to a hairdresser and explicitly mention you want a men’s haircut, and show a picture, again mention you are comfortable with it being as short as in the pic. If they present something unsatisfactory, say “I’d like you to cut it shorter, please” when they ask whether you’re happy. If you don’t feel comfortable asking for a gnc haircut, then you’d have to do it yourself.
All avenues exhausted now or did I miss anything?
I wasn’t trying to provoke a debate, I just wanted to complain about transphobia
Oh lmao fair my bad, I misjudged your comment
I had a knee-jerk reaction since I’m used to the reddit types who go “but what if___” because they just wanna be right about something, when that’s not conducive to the discussion
No worries comrade
I am trad, but I bob my hair once a year in the spring and let it grow out for the rest of the year. It’s usually back to my shoulders before I get it cut again. I used to do hair donation and I would get hair dressers who were uncomfortable giving me a short cut all the time. Now if I get one who’s uncomfortable I tell the to give me the scissors and I cut my ponytail off myself in front of them. After I do that they know I mean business and get down to giving me the cut I want.