If no communist organization exists at all in the country you live in, what do you think of joining the green parties, to get organized?

  • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    Its usually going to be composed of trust funders, liberal do-gooders and liberal grifters looking for a easy seat and paycheck.

    The best they can hope for is turning a 2 party liberal state into a 3 party liberal state; usually the most they can accomplish is splitting the left-liberal vote.

    Not really much but a distraction, i’d mostly focus on pulling away the bottom rank members to socialist parties and stealing the good green policies for ourselves.

    They inherently are still (usually) a liberal project; if its an anarchist one id find it more appealing.

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      8 months ago

      usually the most they can accomplish is splitting the left-liberal vote.

      They do lol and yet the irony is they’re often green conservatives who want green capitalism. Left-libs are easily fooled.

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        8 months ago

        There’s no “splitting the neoliberal vote” in Germany. Not only are all the other parties neoliberals too, but Germany has a parliamentary system where what happens is that parties will enter into coalition to achieve a majority needed to govern, so giving the Greens votes just makes them more likely to end up in a government coalition. And this has absolutely disastrous results as we have seen with the current SPD-Greens government.

        Green parties may be different in other countries but in Germany the current incarnation of the Green party are absolute lunatics.

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          8 months ago

          That’s a much more fair and less silly assessment than mine.

          I absolutely agree that the German Greens are lunatics.

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        8 months ago

        I think its fair to take it on a case by case basis comrade, if you find there are enough substantial communists in the green NZ party it would even be productive to join, advocate for a socialist cause within it, then use the inevitable friction/contradiction of the leadership resisting you to splinter off any socialist/anarchist membership you network with.

        I also have 0 clue where to start with NZ and socialist organizing… The palestine cause and its open support would be enough for me to support them if nothing better presented itself, I understand your reasoning.