https://warriorlodge.com/blogs/news/16298760-a-french-soldiers-view-of-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan

Had a family member stationed on a shared base with americans. He could not say one good thing about them. Their base itself was shit, everything was just destroyed. The americans would comer over to his side of base all the time, because it was “cozy” (they had chairs that weren’t destroyed by some roided up grunt). The americans would pull out a big projector screen every friday, pull out barbeques and then watch live drone footage as they hooted and hollered. The meat was shit too. Not that the shitty base and the shitty meat matters at all, it’s just to illustrate that all the horrors inflicted upon the locals was so some grillman could eat terrible food in a broken chair in an ugly home.

He had to participate in an operation once. Some local who was working as a chef on base was suspected of being an Al Qaeda member (he wasn’t). The briefing was 10 minutes, the captain had named the operation “Operation Fuck Shit Up”. The briefing was mainly just to get these overly aggressive dudes to be hyped about doing their “job”.
They went to were the afghani lived (a tent), which was a small settlement full of very chill people that all had jobs depending on the base. Instead of knocking or checking with family or anything, or just driving in a normal car like normal people to have a chat, they rolled out in a fucking tank. Then they cut his tent open (one cut for each individual) and destroyed the insides - The dude wasn’t home.
They then found him “hiding” (working at his second job) somewhere else, where they did indeed Fuck Shit Up. They beat up the guy, they beat up others at the place, they destroyed the interior.

The US had the highest rate of blue-on-blue violence, and it was very obvious why. He said they would pray that americans didn’t answer calls for help, because it would just make things worse.

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    How detached can you be? Like sure, better training might be believable if you don’t know any better, but a head taller than the French soldiers? “Weakest American soldier stronger than the strongest French soldier”?

    You’re from fucking Burgerland, you bozo. You’re like a handful generations removed from Europeans at most, genetically speaking. You’re the same fucking people.

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    All the Americans are 10’ tall with big swinging dicks between their legs and these flaming red eyes that shoot laser beams. I once saw an American soldier pick up a small car and hurl it like a bowling ball, sending ten of the enemy troops scattering. The soldier did a fist pump and knee kick that was so cool the entire remainder of the unit fighting against them surrendered instantly. That was the smallest and weakest soldier the Americans had brought to the field.

    In American military bases, the only thing anyone ever eats are big macs. We don’t even have bouvine agriculture in this country, so I’m not sure where the burgers are coming from. I asked a US marine once where their burgers come form and he just shrugged. “I honestly don’t know. Wherever we go, there they are. I think its a blessing from God.”

    I just wish every country could be occupied by American soldiers. Whenever American soldiers are around the air smells sweater, birdsong is everywhere, and there is absolutely no crime for a good two weeks after they arrive because everyone just has such good vibes.

    America really is the greatest and bestest country in the world.

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      Does the 40k videogame universe imply IG are Brits/European/NATO and the Space Marines are American? I hadn’t thought about it but the similarities seem intentional

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        i never played any of the games, i just read scifi and fantasy slop all the time because im bored and its a common type of slop.

        the marines have weird scandinavian vikings so maybe those are people from wisconsin or something lmao

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          I’m enjoying the idea that a Space Marines chemical treatment is just injections of bbq sauce and cheese whiz.

          The RTS games are fun but the stories are pretty generic

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        The writing tends to have a mixed degree of sympathy for IG, given how expendable and brainwashed they are. Space Marines pretty much get free reign and are equally hazardous to both Xenos factions and human IG troops, Space Wolves and Salamanders being rare exceptions to this rule.

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        Well most IG are various stereotypes (sneaky middle easterners, stoopid russkies with human waves and one gun for three men, literally Rambo 2, etc). The most famous ones though are British-esque (cadians) and French that everyone thinks are Germans (Krieg).

        Also, shameless plug: visit c/sigmarxism over at lemmygrad!

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            You’re thinking vostroyans, who are indeed styled heavily after imperial Russia (except for some bits I won’t go into). But I was referring to Valhallans, who straight up have the Nazi myth about rifles and soldiers in their entry in Guard Codex

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    You know when you see something so cringe that’s dripping in weird eugenics and fascist rhetoric but then you realise it’d about the US military and it all makes sense.

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    Lol its actually the opposite too, american soldiers wear too much gear, carry too much and have too much funds, meanwhile french soldiers are all true athletes. You get dropped hundreds of kms away from your target and you better walk fast to get there. Last year i was drinking with a dude who used to be in the army and who got the boot for punching an officer in the face (lmao) and he told me that marines came to his base to train. The US marines got up at 6 for some routine country marching with all their gear on (which is something like 40kg+). An older dude grabs him by the shirt and tells him to roll a truck out which confuses the fuck out of the guy. Eventually he realises they’re following the marines on their walk, and on the side of the road, hundreds of discarded items. Basically the US marines were just throwing their gear away, one item at a time. So the two guys get off the truck and slowly start chucking random shit in for hours and then haul the literal tons of gear back to base.

    The old guy then tells him that this happens every time US soldiers come here and that theyre the laziest forces he’s ever seen, that theyre used to getting to places in jeeps, trucks, hummers etc and forgot how to walk, that theyre all addicted to steroids and have too many muscles, useless to have when in a real war you often trekk 30+ km a day. In the french army you get deployed 100+ kms away from your objective and you haul all your shit over the terrain, and youre expected to do this in a day.

    i wont go over the rest, the fact that france basically made a better F35 and abrams for like 10% of the cost, and that the supposedly best the US army has to offer refuses to even try the training courses elite french forces routinely go through in Guyane (horrible fucked up jungle trail thing).

    But both armies fucking suck and serve shitty goals so who fucking cares tbh

    TLDR: US soldiers are lazy roided out meatheads who cant jog 10 miles, and id love to have whatever the dude OP posted was smoking when he typed this shit

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      is it too cliche to see this as a microcosm of France and the United States overall?

      France expects to hold on to their colonial projects, so their institutions reflect that and produce soldiers actually capable of carrying out the orders of empire.

      The United States is only in a region either until local resistance pushes them out or capital has finished hollowing out any remaining infrastructure, so their soldiers really only have to terrorize the locals until the Chinooks arrive to airlift them out at the last possible moment.

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      I was gonna say that the only believable part of the Quota story is being stronger since Americans definitely have a stronger culture of steroids/other gear, strength training, and stimulants

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            yeah, it also beat the F22 in a dogfight, the US air force lied and refused to admit their precious wunderwaffe lost and then the french air force uploaded the damn gun cam footage showing the f22 getting blasted up close. Embarassing.

            As for the leclerc is lighter, less complicated and much, much faster

            divulgâche

            also as a little bonus and game trivia, its the single most successful top tier vehicle in War Thunder with a kill ratio of almost 2 in realistic and a ridiculous 81% win ration in Arcade https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/fr_leclerc_s1. The french tree in general has insane statistics, with very high kill and win ratios, some of the best War thunder players main french vehicles too lol

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            Rafale lacks the stealth capabilities of F-35, which, to be fair, are far more useful against an inferior force than a peer force.

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      All I’ve personally seen of the US military is sometimes you get some of them training with the SAS in Bannau Brycheiniog.

      Every so often you’d hear of one dying out in yr Bannau because they didn’t pack enough water or some shit, although it’s hard to take the piss out of them for that cos it happens just as often to the SAS lot.

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    I can’t find the video now but there was an interview from a year or two ago with an American stationed in Afghanistan who talked about the absolute brainrot in the military where he felt like he was one of the only ones observing the occupation crumbling before his very eyes while everyone else was apparently convinced that they were still winning despite all evidence to the contrary.

    The levels of cope that he described everyone else engaging in while he was like “Uhhhh… there’s some very clear indications that we’re losing here” is a perfect counterpoint to this puff-piece extolling just how wonderful and effective the US armed forces are.

    I wish I could find it again.

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    Also funny to me that americans are described as “a head taller than all others” lmao. The US is a country where 6 feet is above average. This was written by Ben Shapiro

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    What even is that quora response? It sounds like someone trying to write a rip-off of a Tom Clancy novel but they don’t know anything about military tactics or strategy and think that the handsomeness of soldiers is what wins wars.

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    If you ever get board bored, just search communism on Quora. You get banger questions like “Is the goal of communism to make everyone equally poor?” or “What if the Communist plan is to render an outrageous DJT verdict so that the patriots rise up in protest and the Left will, like on J6, make us look like the bad guys?”

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      I follow a few Chinese nationals on Quora who actually try to educate people on communism and misconceptions about China in great detail. It seems like a really thankless task tbh, considering how many of the other responses to questions like “Why come communism make everyone so poor and authoritarian?” Is usually just a “yes, communism is bad and always fails.”

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    My grandfather (Scottish) fought against the Japanese in WWII. He didn’t talk much about the war, but he once told us how the Americans came at the end of the war after all the hard work was done.

    The other allies had been fighting for so long that they were low on food and all their uniforms were rotting. The Americans had only just entered the war at the end so they had all this nice new equipment and lots of food. The American soldiers didn’t share much-needed supplies with their allies. They would instead mockingly offer them food and cigarettes at exorbitant prices. They were overall rude and bad at working with the others.

    Needless to say, it soured my grandfather’s view of Americans.

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      Critical support to the taleban moreso. Blue on Blue was what they called state employees in Afghanistan (cops for example) attacking occupying troops

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        what they called state employees in Afghanistan (cops for example) attacking occupying troops

        You can only collaborate with the people who invaded you for so long before your brain just blue screens and you cease to be able to rationalize excuses for helping them after seeing another child from your country with a bullet in what’s left of his head.