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    Australia has a somewhat threadbare welfare state, though is more of a social democracy than the UK. And snakes and spiders are easier to avoid than Tories.

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      At the end of the day, while living in the US does have its share of issues, they absolutely do not compare to living in Africa.

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      Haven’t you heard? Mexico doesn’t exist it is just drawn on the map to make people think that Canada and The United States are to the rest of the American Continent. Everyone who says they are from Mexico are just paid actors. /s

      Also they left out New Zealand, which will not come as a surprise for New Zealanders. They will probably be happy that they are even on the map.

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      All of central america, the caribbean, greenland, japan, hawaii, and new zealand were all unaccounted for. Probably will be included in the dlc

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        Any country with actual welfare, a decent living wage minimum salary, normal Healthcare prices, a gun ban and a non-corrupt police system or at least less prone to corruption.

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            Yeah, they’re still behind most other “first world” countries in every metric stated.

            Comparing the USA to a country in the middle East or Africa or something? Yeah, the USA is a cakewalk by comparison to many. Compared to any country that’s similarly regarded, it’s dog shit for living conditions.

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              “Middle East” countries do pretty well if they’re not the target of bombings (Qatar, UAE etc.), and are luxury vacation spots. Lots of US expats moving to Oman.

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          I live in Europe. It’s not as beauty as it sounds. I’m glad of what we have, but is not perfect, sometimes is not even better than the USE.

          We have welfare, but more and more people are forced to private medical companies because waiting lists are becoming ridiculously long.

          Violence and support for fascism is on the rise. Terrorism is on the rise. War is at our doorsteps. Many countries are talking about bringing back mandatory military training for all our citizens.

          We may have better minimum wage, but median wages are lower and taxes and prices tend to be much higher. On average we can afford tu buy less with out money.

          At least in my country we all live in small dehumanizing small and packed apartments. Living space is much smaller. Everything is human made, we barely have natural reserves or parks.

          Employment is getting better but sometimes unemployment hits really hard, myself was years without being able to get a job during last decade.

          Political tensions and population conflict is on the rise. Many countries are also on the verge or civil war, secession, or some big problem of the sort.

          US is not perfect, and I wouldn’t want privatized healthcare, or guns in my country by any means, but I would still would love some things they have in the US. And in other things we are just as bad.

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      and canada, USA plus canada is easy mode. Australia is on some shit right now, they deserve it.

      IDK what the others are except for europe and africa, which, yeah that’s about right. Africa is a hot fucking minute away from some spicy shit at the moment, and the other one is probably the same.

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          aussie land is currently imprisoning a whistleblower exposing warcrimes, as well as reams of government corruption scandals. Africa is undergoing numerous disliked governments, coups, and corruption scandals as well.

          USA and canada is pretty tame otherwise.

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            Good assessment but its not like the US isnt just as bad as Australia if not worse. Thanks for the translation tho.

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              idk man, i would say that australia is probably worse than the US, especially considering that they got fucking couped by the us a hot minute ago.

              Currently australia is whoring its resources out to the world, while shipping all of it’s realestate overseas to be owned by foreign investment companies. While fucking people over with shit like made up robo debt collection for some unforsaken reason.

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    I’m gonna be real with you all, I’m in Australia and it’s a little embarrassing how hard you think we have it over here compared to the shit I’ve heard from other places. Like don’t fuck with the animals and don’t put your hands in areas you can’t see and you’re golden. I’ve had to deal with random violence like three times in my 34 years here. It’s pretty alright here.

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        One of the reasons stuff costs more in Australia is that there’s significantly more consumer protection. Steam originally didn’t allow refunds at all, and were fined AU$3 million as a result.

        In Australia, it’s illegal to say “no refunds” or only exchange or refund as store credit both for physical and digital goods, and customers are always allowed to get a repair, refund or replacement if the product has issues. In the case of a game, that would be things like:

        • Game breaking bugs or bug that significantly affects the experience but don’t completely break the game
        • Changes that make the game behave significantly differently to how it was originally described on the site or in the documentation
        • Games that initially support Linux but the company dropped Linux support later on, etc.

        Steam’s policy of only refunding a purchase within 14 days of purchase and less than 2 hours of play time is also not legal in Australia. You can’t have conditions like that on a refund policy. They have a separate refund policy specifically for Australia which excludes the 14 day / 2 hour limits.

        Appliances also have to last for as long as a ‘reasonable consumer’ thinks they should last. For example, even if your TV or fridge has a “1 year warranty”, the manufacturer will still have to repair, refund, or replace it if it breaks down in 3 years, as a regular person would assume that a fridge or TV should last more than 3 years. The store or manufacturer has to cover the cost of picking it up and delivering a replacement. It’s also illegal for a store to tell you that you have to contact the manufacturer - the place you bought the product from has to let you handle all warranty claims through them.

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            ISPs can monitor and such, I’ve not gone into the intricacies of the laws myself. One can get around it all pretty easily.

            Tbh game prices are actually not too bad here. I don’t pirate games, steam etc are just too reasonable, and I don’t buy them that often.

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        Wait do you guys not? Next you’ll tell me you don’t eat your national animal

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          You know, at this point I think I’ll be surprised if I DON’T see somebody eating a bald eagle for Thanksgiving one of these years.

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      and don’t put your hands in areas you can’t see

      Serious question: do you check your bed before you crawl into it for the night? Like, what’s the level of paranoia you guys have there? Does the room get a quick glance then you just go “yeah, I’m sure everything is fine”? Or do you turn all the lights on, rip the duvet up, and smack the bed frame to scare off any creepy crawlies that might be lingering about?

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        Haha no not quite that paranoid. Nah it’s mostly a rule for like moving stuff around in the garden and if you’re in the bush or whatever. Like the shit you have to worry about will either let you know, or set up a home far away from you. Generally. So it’s kind of another way of saying don’t put you hand into a redback nest.

        Though saying that most people have had harrowing huntsman spider encounters, often in bed. They’re the most common surprise as they actively move around to hunt prey, instead of building webs. They can’t really hurt humans, aside from hiding behind your sun visor in the car and scaring you half to death, like my girlfriend had last year. They are a non zero statistic in cause of car accidents unfortunately.

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            Eh, I see plenty of shit around the world that makes me happy I’m here. It’s fucking wild to think that after your cats have found yet another majestic galloping hand sized spider that you have to save from them.

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        Probably the most I check in day to day life is just under the toilet seat before I sit on it. Haven’t yet had a spider under there yet but have definitely heard of it. Otherwise just being careful of huntsmen when you have something like two sheets of iron or wood, as they love to be in between them.

        Have otherwise had little spiders come out from the car’s crevices while driving and calmly pulled over to deal with it.

        Overall not really that paranoid or bad in Australia

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    Little racist there my guy. Also, America is pretty “hard mode” for a lot of people.

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        Initial stats and current location. Some places want you dead for being the way you were born.

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      That’s the interesting thing about empire, it’s self similar. A whole class of people may grow up geographically in or near the core, but their experience of life has more in common with someone in the semi- or outer periphery in terms of access to necessities or stability of life.

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    Life in the US is only easy for a small handful of people. Most of us consider it a good year if we got through it without crushing medical debt and retained all of our teeth. Is a third world country passing itself off as a first world country.

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      At least US families can expect all their children not to die by tuberculosis or malaria or something.

      And fuck Australian magpies.

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        Assuming the mother/baby don’t die in the hospital waiting room bathroom because the hospital refused treatment.

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          Tuberculosis is still world’s deadliest infectious disease. Mostly because the healthcare in developing countries lack access to the necessary treatment for it.

          TB is a solved problem in developed countries such as US. Barely anyone gets it anymore, let alone die from it.

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          Hospitals generally won’t refuse treatment to anyone as far as I know, even if you tell them straight up at check in that you won’t be able to pay them. You’ll still get treated, provided they have the space and staff available to treat you.

          However, afterward, that debt will haunt you like a vengeful ghost for the rest of your life.

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            I believe it’s a reference to the problems caused by the fucked up abortion laws going on recently, not about payment (though that’s its own concern). From a quick search:

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/19/pregnant-women-denied-care-us-hospitals

            One woman miscarried in the restroom lobby of a Texas emergency room as front desk staff refused to admit her to the hospital.

            Another related issue is that rural areas, especially in right wing hellholes that have passed such laws, are increasingly short on access to obestrician services and doctors of that specialty. Some people who used to live 40 miles from the nearest hospital with Ob/Gyn now live 100 miles away and lack transportation.

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        On the other hand, US families can also expect their kindergarteners to have to participate in active shooter drills. Because, you know, active shooters are a thing. Screw that.

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          If you look at statistics, it’s extremely unlikely for any school to have a shooting. 99.99999% of children from ages 0 to 18 in the USA are not harmed by firearms.

          So you can waste your time and sanity worrying about that or just live without fear and find what makes you happy in life. Either way you and your kids will be safe so it’s your choice to be crippled by irrational fear or not.

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            Or we can actually do something to prevent it from ever happening. The math is not hard. No guns = no gun violence.

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              That’s just a fantasy that will never happen though. Guns are already here in the number of hundreds of millions, and we have the right to own them, and we choose to keep them.

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      First of all: haha, funny, your nickname is in the OP

      Secondly: how are your links you referred us to showing that the joke made is eurocentric and racist? What’s real GDP growth (that’s what the map you linked showed) got to do with anything? Why is the corruption perception index any indication of how hard life is gonna be if you are born in a certain place? It doesn’t show how much corruption there is or the effects of said corruption, just how corrupt things are perceived as.

      And regarding the happiness index… Have you looked at the page? It lists almost exclusively countries within Europe, so that would support the joke, would it not?

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        Here is the wiki article on Real GDP feel free. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_gross_domestic_product The take a way is you will see most of South America and parts of Africa are on par with the USA.

        Weirdly enough it is very hard to get corrupt politicians, civil servants, etc to check the yes box for the question are you corrupt. So corruption perception is used, which is actually pretty accurate. The local population is pretty good at noticing when they’re being asked to pay a bribe or seeing that nepotism is present in government.

        If you were to look at the ranked list you would find that Uruguay, Barbados, Bhutan, and Botswana. Are all ahead of Greece, Montenegro, Romanian, Bulgaria, and Hungry.

        As for the happiness index did you actually scroll down to the full list? Yes most of the country you would expect to be high on the list. There are plenty of outliers, Costa Rica is higher than the USA; Uruguay is higher than France; El Salvador is higher than Italy, Malta, Spain, Estonia, and Poland; Honduras and China are higher than Croatia, Greece, and Bosnia and Hertzegovina. I am sure there are more but I hope you get how it does not support the joke.

        Is eurocentric and a little racist because it clearly states that the only countries worth living in are European or North America (except Mexico which apparently doesn’t exist). This meme is basically saying living in Europe or the United States is the best and everywhere else is a shit hole country. Yet looking at the actual data we can see that is not true.

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          You’re overemphasizing the nil racism in the meme. If anything, it highlights empathy that life can be harder being born in a less developed country and that that isn’t fair.

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            Is complicated, every Chilean you ask will have a different opinion, but I think there are many reasons to think that chile will manage and there is hope for the future, you can make a post in [email protected], the Chilean community on lemmy too.

            Also: were are you from?

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              Thanks for the tip! I’m from the Pacific Northwest of the United States. As things here start to look increasingly concerning, we’re considering our options.

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                A lot of Chileans don’t like chile, but IMO they just fall in the “neighbour has geener grass” fallacy, we have a lot of problems but we have a lot of the tools to fix them, tools that many other countries don’t.

                I think that, provided you have studies or some money, chile is a great country to live, Chilean culture, at its core, has a lot of solidarity, people do think about other people, specially in a natural disaster.

                The government, as much as they have done dumb shit, it’s generally competent in keeping the country afloat, they got everyone vaccinated from COVID very early for example.

                Good infrastructure, public and private health, tons of natural beauty, is reasonably safe, even if less than in the past, yeah, I like chile, I think I’m lucky to have been born here, could have been a lot worse.

                You may like chile too, I can’t say, but, specially if you hold on to an online US job (Chilean jobs pay way less) you should be pretty fine here as an American.

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                  Thanks so much for taking the time to write this up. I just told my wife we’re moving to Chile and she thinks I’m crazy. Of course, lacking any context from here, that’s understandable.

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        One of the big problems with HDI is that it fails to consider inequality and non-income material conditions; a country with 1 person making 1B/y and 999 people living in abject poverty gets the same per capita GNI as a country of 1000 people making 1m/y who have free housing, transport, and healthcare.

        The latter obviously has better conditions for more people.

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        Yeah they are. That is why I used Real GDP Growth. It is still not a great metric but it is a little better than GDP and GDP Growth.

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      I’m inclined to agree. While life is kinda good in Europe, it’s getting more and more difficult to lead a somewhat wealthy and happy life here. And now the fucking Nazis are on the rise again, it makes me sick. I’d absolutely prefer to live in NZ or Australia but I don’t want to tear my daughter away from her social surroundings just yet.

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    When are we talking about, here? Much of Europe is a disease-ridden mosquito swamp if you go back a few thousand years.

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    This is clearly some kind of rage bait troll post. Don’t acknowledge it and maybe they will just go away

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      This particular meme is probably older than you are

      I don’t like it very much, but I also know the OP’s typical posting history (Picard Maneuver is pretty prolific on meme Lemmy) and I can say with some certainty that that ain’t it, chief. At worst it’s a bad take that the OP definitely didn’t make themselves because I’ve seen this meme decades ago.

      Bad take and all though, it seems to have sparked some discussion here in the comments.

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        age for sure makes all the difference in when a meme is appropriate

        as we know, the oldest memes and in-jokes are all the least racist and bigoted

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        I am 42 years old, and I do not appreciate your condescending tone.

        ☆º°˚☆ Have a ηice ϑay ☆º°˚

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    The Galapagos deserves its own level at the top of this. It’s literally, “don’t eat any green apples you find on the island, okay?”

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    Includes British Columbia in “easy mode”.

    Nah, BC looks pretty, but if you unprepared off the beaten trails/roads, they’ll never find your body.

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      I don’t think we’re talking about wilderness in general… But housing and grocery prices are not particularly easy either.

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        If we aren’t talking about wilderness in general, then there is no reason for Australia to have it’s own category.

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          Seems to be an all round rubric partially political (more than a little based in Eurocentric standard) partially wilderness in which case Australia does kind of have BC beat. Like yes… We have moose grizzlies and wolverine but those are a pretty rare eldrich horror to stumble across. We don’t really have mouse-pocolypses, or dinnerplate sized crawlies that randomly just show up in our houses… And our critters are all round less venomous.

          Like I grew up in a forestry household. Off trail can get spooky as fuck. But for a lot of the main points like exposure and microbial issues which is pretty much a problem everywhere we rank fairly tame. Most of our snakes and bugs are chill with highly survivable bites, our deserts are pretty temperate but in most of the heavily forested areas there’s a lot of foragables if you know what to look for and most of our big predators are easily scared off.

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            You say that, and yes, if you know what you’re doing its fine. Same applies to Australia.
            We have thick rainforest vegitation so dense you can walk off a cliff and not realize it until you fall through.