• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I dunno. I think his admin turned on them. Supporting a ban on a media platform that a lot of them want to use to be famous and make money. Supporting police brutality against peaceful protesters. Supporting immigration legislation that’s far from that on which he ran. Hrm. Who turned on who?

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      I think his admin turned on them.

      Bullshit. This administration has done more for GenZ and beyond than the last three republiQan administrations combined

      Is it everything and a giant bag of money? No. That’s not a thing. And any whining about having a privacy-mangling app being “taken away” is ridiculous. To be famous?? O Noes the BiDeN took away their famousnesses?? Teh harror.

      And Feds do not micromanage local cop overreactions to protests. And if you think this administration is anywhere close to the political alternative to that, you’re more than wrong.

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        And any whining about having a privacy-mangling app being “taken away” is ridiculous

        the tiktok ban isn’t about privacy. You can tell that because every other social media app is just as atrocious as tiktok (and in fact, selling that same data to the CCP, too.)

        you know that, but it doesn’t suit your narrative so you ignore it. the tiktok ban was performative bullshit and we all know it.

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          and in fact, selling that same data to the CCP, too.

          Prove it or admit you’re just making shit up. What, you got a sizzling hot redstate.com article? A four-hour podcast with Bill and Jackie? A guy you know from the thing with the stuff? I’m looking for a properly sourced article, not a youtube playlist or “feels”.

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              Wouldn’t be necessary if they weren’t buying it

              That’s data brokers. You said social media apps ALL do the same thing. That is not the same thing. Do we need to break that down, or you wanna die on this hill?

              Here’s some more info,

              The only social media app mentioned in this article is TikTok, lol. Good, uh, try i guess? Unless you’re back to data brokers, which - again, is a different argument. Related, sure, relevant, yes, but your claim that ALL social media apps share data with the CCP just as bad as TikTok is not supported by that argument.

              And some more

              TikTok (again) and Facebook. Okay. Hey - they wanna ban facebook, I’m all about it. Let’s do this.

              wow, even more!

              Facebook again. I mean, fair point, facebook is just as bad as tiktok (exception noted below). But that’s still not “ALL social media is just as bad as TikTok”, that’s just facebook. Facebook is the hitler of social-media-is-bad discussion. I’ll totally concede that one.

              I can do this all day….

              Google, Apple, Microsoft . . . All as bad as TikTok? No. Rejecting this one. I bet you could find articles about selling data all day. Doesn’t support your point.

              It’s almost like you’re the one just making shit up and watching podcasts while insulting people.

              I thought people listened to podcasts. Do they watch them too? Weird, but whatever. So, look, i’m on board with shutting down data brokers and all like that, but you’re saying that TikTok us no different from, what? Gmail? Teams? Signal? No. You’re wrong.

              Here’s one reason. Because access to audio and video is essentially required, tiktok is inherently more dangerous than some other fascist spewholes like Xitter. The fact that the data is slurped directly into the CCP (let’s just make that a given, unless you disagree) means it’s already more valuable and useful than data-broker data for the reasons that the data broker would have to follow certain laws, it would cost a lot of money for a billion people’s data constantly, and they’d still have to put it together with what they already have which is fine if it’s name and address, but after that it gets super hairy super quick.

              So no - they’re not all as bad as TikTok.

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      People scream and demand grubbermint protection, they get it and then they get upset. It’s all normal. China isn’t to be trusted with electronics. Sad that the genz whatever who can barely understand computers can’t have a basic grasp that a foreign government doesn’t have their best interests at heart.

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        Gen Z simply recognises that they’ve been priced out of their local digital monopolies, while their own government colludes with big tech to protect the extraction of digital rents from anyone trying to use their platforms as a market. Whether or not China has their best interests at heart, they are providing the only popular digital platform that can still be described as being anything like a free market.