How did the egg laying chickens come into existence? Where are all the roosters? What happens when they get too old to lay? How many eggs do their ancestors lay, are there health problems associated with the difference?
What creatures do the honey bees starve out? Are bee farms hotbeds of disease? How are sick hives treated? Do bees defend their honey? What are the bees fed instead?
Yeah but bees always make more than they need and the humans can leave them plenty of honey to survive winter
And with eggs the eggs don’t come out fertilized. Your not killing a baby chicken every time you eat an egg. And it’s not like the chicken is gonna do anything with the egg. At most they’ll either leave it so another animal comes and eats it or they eat it themselves cause chickens are gluttonous little bastards.
I’m not even trying to argue just to troll you or anything it’s legitimately confusing. The chicken doesn’t create the egg for any reason other than potential procreation. They’ll produce eggs even when no males are around to fertilize them. They’ll drop an egg and then promptly fuck off like it never even happened.
Your not killing a baby chicken every time you eat an egg.
While this could be argued there is nuance to this. Do you know what happens to the male chickens in egg slavery yards? Many baby chickens are killed in the production of said egg.
The point is animals are not to be manipulated for our benefit. Do you think a chicken crammed in a cage unable to ever spread its wings for its entire life is happy you’re eating her extra eggs?
Okay but eggs and honey are valid questions.
Chickens are gonna lay eggs regardless and bees are gonna make honey regardless.
As long as your not going out of your way to hurt the animals while collecting eggs/honey, what’s the problem?
How did the egg laying chickens come into existence? Where are all the roosters? What happens when they get too old to lay? How many eggs do their ancestors lay, are there health problems associated with the difference?
What creatures do the honey bees starve out? Are bee farms hotbeds of disease? How are sick hives treated? Do bees defend their honey? What are the bees fed instead?
Chickens and bees are making eggs and honey for them, not for humans.
Yeah but bees always make more than they need and the humans can leave them plenty of honey to survive winter
And with eggs the eggs don’t come out fertilized. Your not killing a baby chicken every time you eat an egg. And it’s not like the chicken is gonna do anything with the egg. At most they’ll either leave it so another animal comes and eats it or they eat it themselves cause chickens are gluttonous little bastards.
I’m not even trying to argue just to troll you or anything it’s legitimately confusing. The chicken doesn’t create the egg for any reason other than potential procreation. They’ll produce eggs even when no males are around to fertilize them. They’ll drop an egg and then promptly fuck off like it never even happened.
What gives us the right to exploit them because they’re good workers?
https://yvfi.ca/honey
While this could be argued there is nuance to this. Do you know what happens to the male chickens in egg slavery yards? Many baby chickens are killed in the production of said egg.
http://yvfi.ca/eggs
The point is animals are not to be manipulated for our benefit. Do you think a chicken crammed in a cage unable to ever spread its wings for its entire life is happy you’re eating her extra eggs?
And just so you know;