Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao
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Very happy to be on an instance that blocks them entirely. The couple of weeks we were federated was a couple of weeks too long honestly.
I forgot to block the instructions, left an unpopular opinion on a post. I wish I blocked it like I thought I didn’t.
Everyone just goes straight to being an asshole there, no middle ground.
Actually they blocked us first lmao.
It was great. They made a whole event about how they will dunk all of Lemmy and fill every thread with their spam… Just to realise they’re not in a safespace anymore and they defederated themselves in less than 24 hours.
I got banned from hexbear and lemmygrad like a year ago without ever even posting in either community, just for arguing with some of their users under a post on lemmy.ml
Ah, I see you said something controversial, like “Theocracy bad” or “Imperialist capitalist state bad”. The tankies don’t like those positions for some reason.
Bruh I poked the hexbear once when a dude was arguing over exactly how to classify the Uyiger genocide. Something about how “it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing” they really didn’t like when I pointed out just how weird of an argument that is. Fascists usually short circuit pretty fast under redicule
it’s not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing
Those are synonyms, FFS. 🤦♂️
Dude needs to crack open a dictionary or a thesaurus.
It’s only a genocide if it comes from the state of Germany. Everything else is just sparkling ethnic cleansing. /S
I had one argue “the Soviet space program did amazing things without the benefits of imperialism”, which is a statement I can only ridicule. Then, to prove how not imperialist the Soviet Union was, he proceeded to explain how much imperialism the United States did. Yes, I’m quite aware of how much imperialism the United States did. That’s not the issue here.
I originally joined Lemmy with a lemmy.ml account by mistake. I was arguing with a brainlet who told me the Soviets could not possibly have been bad because they fought the Nazis. When I asked what that meant regarding apartheid USA I got banned from .ml.
You see what makes a Nazi isn’t actually killing millions of people. It’s only killing millions of Russians. The reason why the Nazis are evil is not actually because they are evil but because they went against the Russians.
That’s how many of the Russians see it anyway, and by extension many tankies. The only difference is tankies have to try and sound reasonable to a Western leftist audience.
apartheid USA
What?
I am an idiot, I should have written “segregated.”
If you want the really specific term, it’s Jim Crow, after the Jim Crow laws passed in the south after reconstruction. The effects of Jim Crow reach us today and will for a long time
.ml is the same way. People were getting deleted left and right for posting about Maduro fixing the election in Venezuela. Not realizing it’s freaking .ml. Even when told, “the mods are just enforcing the instance rules” they didn’t get it.
I’ve been there, but I mostly just do it anyway. Fuck it, I said what I said. Half the time you don’t even get anything all that cutting, it’s just png salad. Every now and then, you’ll get a coherent response that isn’t a death threat, and those end up being good reads more often than not.
Eh, more often than not their longer posts are just “actually Stalin/Putin/Mao/Kim dynasty/Trump good because <5 page essay>”
Edit: also the classic “comparing Stalin to Hitler is a form of Holocaust denial” and in the same breath calling everyone not in their vatnik bubble a nazi or fascist lmao
And of course, if you don’t address every single point in that 5 page essay, along with doing all of their required reading, then you’re clearly acting in bad faith and a shitlib and are now going to be dogpiled by 27 other Hexbear users.
“If you do not take tankie.blogspot as a serious source then you are WRONG AND I WIN. I WIN! I WIN! I WIN!”
Bro I had this commie from lemmy.ml post a meme advertising for how great communism was. And I told him how the state was authoritarian and basically didn’t care much about human rights and the millions of people starving to death. I got wall of text and he got upset when I used wikipedia as a source. I’m sure if I used some news outlet he’d just say that’s western propaganda so I ended up blocking the guy and later the instance.
You made the right choice. It doesn’t matter how you respond, they’ll shift the goalposts and attack you every time.
Yeah I don’t think much of it either… They just take offense to something doesn’t even apply to them lol
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There’s a certain special irony in folks on the internet telling one another “Shut up! You’re not allowed to criticize free speech!” in a thread defending free speech. It only gets worse when you have people throwing shit fits over being federated, because it means you might get banned from another sub.
This all seems to boil down to “I don’t like other communities that hurt my feelings”. A thousand little Elon Musks, all screaming and crying because they can’t shut everyone else up and turn the local instance into a room full of yes-men.
I’ve never been able to figure out the basic ideas behind their opinions. It’s something like US conservatives, where it’s something stupider than you can even guess at, but less predictable.
Understand that some or most of the key posters there are literally pawns of Russian or Chinese intelligence. Troll farms, wumao, what have you. Whether they are literally government employees or contracted through a third party, their purpose is to astroturf positive optics of their employer and negative optics of the US/the West as a whole. A more sinister interpretation, they are trying to destabilize the West by doing things like trashing Biden, now Harris, hoping to secure a chaotic and inwardly destructive Trump presidency.
Anything they say is to service these goals, anything they believe is mutable to these goals, and nothing they argue is in good faith.
But doesnt china block hexbear?
For others but their info opsec is uninhibited. The crux of authoritarians is “rules for the but not for me”.
I’ve seen some downright insane takes on how what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs is not as bad as it seems.
It sure is odd how hexbear loves the absolute fuck out of Russia and China.
it’s very simple.
us bad.
Never post you bear ass in IncantationUrsine, always make sure you are in MagicBear community where friendly sugar bears updoot and compliment you.
Communists are somewhat like collapsniks. I don’t want to bully or torment them, life kicked their butt already. But tankies, damn they deserve some bullying from time to time for all the stupid shit they say.
I’m fine and usually agree with people who are economically left. I find I usually disagree with people who love state capitalism so much they will excuse whatever human rights abuses occur under it.
You just comment something like “humans good” and the pro-russia tankies start arguing with the anti-russia tankies under your comment…
I’m somewhat convinced that all the Tankie servers have some unspoken agreement to ban the same dissenters.
I doubt it’s even unspoken.
I’m new here, I don’t even know what the fediverse is. What does this mean?
As Goat has said, this platform (Lemmy) is comprised of instances, some, like Lemmy.world, are general instances, and some have a specific theme or type of content they cater to. There’s one for furry porn, one for regular porn, for example, and one for utterly insufferable Internet communists who make a point of behaving badly in other communities.
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Sorry, but no. I’ve seen how they engage with other instances, their strategy is to dogpile on anyone who dares disagree with them, flood the thread with insults and shitty images, and generally behave like poo flinging monkeys. They don’t debate, they don’t actually make a cohesive argument for their beliefs, their entire approach is to use overwhelming force to drown out opposing voices.
They’re a thoroughly awful group of people.
Don’t forget if you try to defend yourself you get told to go touch grass.
I had a stroke reading this
Except there’s evidence supplied in this community of Hexbear users organising what threads to target specifically.
You’ve been defending tankies a lot. Why?
The fediverse is an interconnected community composed of instances. Every website is its own instance that can communicate with other instances
So right now I’m on sh.itjust.works, and you’re on lemmy.world.
The Fediverse is much more than just that. You just described the Lemmy (and kbin?) part of it. The Xitter alternative Mastodon for example is another part of the Fediverse among many others.
So before I knew shit about the fediverse I was trying to find and instance and I thought “oh neat I’m a leftist,” and created an account on hexbear. I was not prepared at all for that. I didn’t know what a tankie was and I was just legit confused for a minute.
My experience on lemmy is vastly improved after blocking lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, hexbear, beehaw, and pawb. Wiped out vast swathes of degenerates from my feed.
Sure, occasionally poking them with a stick can be funny, but if you don’t like your scrolling punctuated with muttering “oh fuck off” under your breath every few minutes – it’s nice.
I did say something controversial (apparently) on grad and simply asked what I said wrong and having an open mind showed that they can interact normally… But Hexbear is just straight up poisoning me lol
??? (Mostly) Nothing wrong with Beehaw or pawb.social, most are good people around those parts
now I might not remember why I blocked beehaw but I know damn well the animal fetishists are not “good people”, thank you
and just from your instance name… yeah that’s another one for the list
Animal fetishists?! You mean… furries?
NGL I thought my instance had gone off the rails while I wasn’t looking for a second there. Getting lumped in with hexbear and .ml is pretty rough. Beehaw? Good company imho.
I think we have a relict from the mid-2000s in our midst, back when half the internet was in open war with furries.
Guy uses “degenerates” straight and is complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 90% they’re a cryptofash.
Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.
♪ Now it is 1984 ♪
♪ Knock-knock at your front door ♪
♪It’s the suede denim secret police ♪
♪ They have come for your uncool niece! ♪
I know, it must be hard for kids to understand a time before they were born, but don’t worry, someday you’ll be explaining the facts of life to youngsters yourself.
Man, I was in the trenches of online forums at the time. I was PART of those times. I just eventually grew up past being an edgy preteen.
so just to recap, you gained a newfound appreciation for animal fetishists, and you… think that’s a sign of maturity and growth?
okay then. I’ll just leave you to it then, champ, you have fun with that <3
The lolocaust was specifically about furries that liked to spam furry porn and be obnoxious. They deserved what they got. https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Something_Awful
I don’t know, yiffit folks seem very nice. Not always safe for work, though.
I think my instance already bans beehaw, though. I forget why, unfortunately.
Didn’t beehaw defederate from lemmy.world a year ago because they felt it had a bad influence on itself? Mb not theexact reason’ but something like that scratches my mind
I mean seeing how negative and pissy some sects of the users are on lemmy.world, I can’t really blame them. The technology and gaming community on there are so unhelpful and the comments are just variations of “enshittification” or “modern gaming/tech sucks” which…yeah we know, we’re on Lemmy.
At least Beehaw users, in my experience, actually read the articles and discuss the topics at hand. Even if there is a lower userbase to engage with, I end up learning something new or productive.
Beehaw? I’ve had nothing but good interactions with them, personally.
They’re alright now, but they used to be pretty bad. No negativity allowed whatsoever.
I remember there was some sort of thread asking disabled people if they like being disabled…
and the people who said no were banned for being negative lol
I can’t remember why I blocked them exactly, to be honest, but I remember thinking they were almost as annoying as hexbear users, and I can’t be bothered to go have a second look now to see exactly why. Clearly, I was annoyed with them enough to block them, as the ones I listed above are the only instances I have blocked save for lemmynsfw (which is just because I don’t care for porn in my feed).
Beehaw’s primary identity as an instance is “to be nice to people” which you know what, that’s fine, but personally I think it’s super annoying lol. Also there are some users from that instance who were also outspoken and especially annoying but I don’t see them commenting as much these days.
Beehaw has been… difficult. If you disagree that something is *phobia or *phobic then it’s a quick way to get them mad at you.
I remember somebody ( person A) getting especially angry because another person (person B) used the pronoun “them” to refer to person A. It was pointed out that not every client shows the pronouns beside the username and still it was considered *phobic.
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You blocked lemmy.ml? Why
Beehaw and pawb are peculiar blocks but .ml can be a bit trying. Many users have been swept into, what they believe to be, militant communist zeitgeist. Their opinions exist within an echo-chamber surreptitiously safeguarded by their extremely banhappy admins. Mind that it would be acceptable if they were to openly offer their rule list, including “do not criticize communism, communists, communist countries, China, Russia, or the war in Ukraine” but they refuse to do so given how unpopular and weird that would be if it were visible to their users. If you care to verify, post a picture of tank man or suggest that Russia should leave Ukraine in one of their communities and enjoy your two week vacation from .ml.
Users range from confused and corralled to militant and chronically angry and many don’t understand why. Frankly, most .ml users are fine but their communities are breeding grounds for frustration, delusions, and misinformation. The prime example of admin sanctioned crazy goes by the name of yogthos if you, once again, wish to verify.
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What’s your beef with seahorse?
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Wow, your reasoning is uh… well it sure is interesting… can’t say I see where you’re coming from. lemmy.world is like the most conservative instance I can think of
Beehaw? The most adorable place in the lemmy space IMO!
If you don’t like them fine, but please reconsider lumpung them together with the crazy fascist ones please 😊
Can relate, the people from that instance are bonafide shitrilers, born a century too late to join Hitler’s youth so they join hexbear instead.
