• hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    92
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Clickbait warning. This has nothing to do with the Meta smart glasses. They’re just a means of taking pictures of people without them noticing. But you could do the same with any internet connected camera / phone etc.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      2 months ago

      How does that automatically dox people? I have a load of photos of people who I got in the background. I don’t magically know their names.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Not that I have a Facebook profile, but even if I did, that would only give them access to information that I made public.

          Doxing requires you to release information that you otherwise would keep private.

          It won’t let them know my bank account details or my home address or my medical history or anything like that.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            Yeah, as I said it’s clickbait and not “proper” doxing. What I’ve been annoyed with are old newspaper articles. Sometimes you’ll find some articles with a picture and a full name citing some sports achievements from when you were 17 or did some public activity with the boy scouts or some other club. Usually including pictures, full name and location. Which isn’t great and you have less control over that than over a facebook or linkedin profile…

            Sometimes an employer also has a “the team” page on their website with mugshots of everyone. That can be used to annoy people, stalk them or call the employer and so some nasty stuff.

            I usually don’t tell people my last name. Or I write pseudonomously on the internet, to make doxing a bit more complicated. And I don’t post pictures of myself. That’s all I can do. And quite some years ago I tried contacting some reverse image search providers. But it was difficult to get them to get rid of the pictures.

            It’s not necessarily just the information out there. Being able to connect it also makes people more vulnerable. I wouldn’t call it doxing, though. That term has a meaning. Usually it has to include at least an address or an employer or some private information that isn’t readily available.

    • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      Op has over 3800 posts in under a year. Yikes. Either bot or one smelly keyboard warrior

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Eh, they probably just have a feed and post a bunch all at once. I’ve seen other posters do something similar. Creating 10-15 lemmy posts/day isn’t particularly hard if you’re literally just copy/pasting links from an RSS feed.

        • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Not saying it’s difficult nor all that time consuming. If you are creating 10+ posts a days, rss feed or not you need to revaluate your free time. Essentially you’re attempting to sway the opinions of strangers online, all day everyday there’s no other reason for that many posts other than attempting to sway others opinions. And that’s fucking lame dude

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            I think it’s just attention grabbing, the same thing that motivated people to do it on Reddit (having people recognize your username). I doubt OP is putting a lot of thought into what gets posted (i.e. no agenda), they’re merely looking for lots of engagement.

            • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              That’s even worse. They are then like a stray dog or cat begging for scraps. Sad as fuck really

                • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  2 months ago

                  I don’t agree… He/ she or they / them or who the heck ever posts a TON of left leaning political propaganda. Now, I despise trump and musk and pretty much anyone on the right and consider myselfvery far left. But I don’t post 10+ times a day about it.

                  If that’s not political motivational posting then what is??

                  One look at their profile will show the motivation

    • PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      it is annoying when they do that; i would, however, venture that these glasses probably give people a way of doing things more surreptitiously, even though this article doesn’t explore that

      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, they mention that it’s unsuspicious glasses by the look. We’ll have to see what this comes to… When google introduced their Google glasses, people got yelled at on the streets, at least as far as I remember.

        • nutsack@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          I don’t think anyone actually got yelled at for wearing them. they were pretty rare to see. I know people who wore them all the time

        • Bradley@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          Google Glass stood out like a sore thumb, especially when it was first introduced. These have a form factor that is based on traditional sunglasses.

  • ikidd@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Meta could build a set of glasses that lets me view Pluto, washes the dishes, and gives me a loving blowjob, and I wouldn’t let them get within 10m of me.

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Because people get suspicious when somebody is taking pictures of every stranger they come across, but people looking at passersby while wearing glasses is normal.

      • realharo@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Just pretend to be a travel YouTuber, or a live streamer.

    • rasakaf679@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      It isn’t as obvious as shoving phone infront to take photos, whereas glasses are more incognito

  • Azureumbra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    2 months ago

    It’s wild to me that this hasn’t become the news of the day.

    If I were RayBan I would jump ship right now before brand image is tanked. Why would you trust anyone wearing RayBans after this?

    • realharo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      You can do this with any camera, including the one in all the phones out there. The only thing specific to the glasses is that it’s more convenient and inconspicuous to be wearing it on your face.

      Might as well have put the iPhone in the title for more clickbait. Anyone dedicated enough can make or buy tons of different kinds of wearables that could do the same.

      The key issue is that such a database exists and is so easily searchable.

      • BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        Sure, facebook has been doing it for years. They build shadow profiles on people, allegedly ‘only’ (massive air quotes around that one) so if those people ever join they’ll have links and photos and such already waiting for them.

  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    2 months ago

    I have semi face-blindness, it takes several meetings before I can start recognising a person’s face. Something like this would actually be a lifesaver for me, just so I can know who I’m talking to and whether I’ve met them before.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      I don’t have many issues, but my memory can sometimes suck, so I would also like something like this.

      But not from Meta. I need to be 100% in control of the data before I’d ever feel comfortable wearing them in public.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    porn has driven every digital invention from vhs to web. metas stupid glasses will be sold out when you get a realtime nude-filter. coz then everyone would also accept ads in the fiel of view.

  • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    23
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    The company behind Threads, which we’ve allowed to now infest the fediverse with little evident opposition. Cheers y’all.

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    25
    ·
    2 months ago

    First of all bullshit. Try me. A modicum of effort towards privacy would protect you from this. Seems like a healthy way to bring attention to the bigger issue at play here.

    Also - awesome. I have terrible propsagnosia. It’s crippling socially and especially for me in the workplace and and my scientific career (there’s a decent amount of networking and ass kissing in science, and if you can’t keep track of people at all it’s tough to play along). I’d love something like this - congrats to the devs.

    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      First of all bullshit. Try me. A modicum of effort towards privacy would protect you from this.

      Unfortunately this does not count.

      It does not matter if they have 99% or 99.99% of the sheepfolk in their pocket. It would not even matter if it were only 90%. It is still everybody. They got everybody. They won.

      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Who even cares anymore. The sheepfolk don’t. They cheered on the death of our free and open internet. It’s everyone for themselves now.

    • treadful@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      You can have tools for recognition and not identification. Identification likely includes information that someone did not intend to share with you.

  • parpol@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    28
    ·
    2 months ago

    This is not a technology issue. Never reveal you real name, address and phone number on the internet.

    • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      44
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Never post your resume or sign up for LinkedIn in the course of a job search? Never use a dating site? Never buy a domain? Never pay property taxes? Never go to court? I see your point, but never revealing your info online isn’t realistic or even a choice for most people.

      • parpol@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        17
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        I don’t know about buying domains, court or taxes. Those should be private and they probably are in my country.

        But LinkedIn and dating sites are definitely a scam.

        I am a huge privacy fanatic, so it is my goal that no one should ever be required to upload pictures of themselves on the internet or reveal their addresses or phone numbers. People have gotten way too complacent in handing over their private information, and that needs to change.

        The fact that having privacy is unrealistic is truly bothersome.