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    I got banned for telling someone it’s important to check for cancer, on a post about a sports person that died from rectal cancer, and I was banned permanently for “harassment”.

    I appealed and lost.

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      Yeah, bad actors have weaponised the harassment rule to get people banned. I was banned because a tankie sub - that I had previously thought was cool - banned me from out of nowhere with an automated message and no explanation. Putting 2 & 2 together it was clearly for an anti-tankie post I made on a different sub. Literally a kind of harassment in itself. When I said “What the fuck?” In my reply, I was banned reddit-wide.

      Like they’ve gotta just be fishing for anything they can call harasment to get their ideological enemies kicked.

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        Yeah I got banned from greenandpleasent the same time Russia invaded Ukraine because it was taken over by a bunch of boot lickers and likely actual paid russian shills, probably some of the same crowd hosting hexbear et al. And got a site wide ban soon after…

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            Years of being on reddit has conditioned me to always respond to this picture with

            So brave

            I literally cannot stop myself from posting it.

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          Its an epithet for authcoms (authoritarian communists) and MLs (Marxists-Leninists). Essentially referring to justifications of using tanks / violence to quash uprisings or dissent.

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          In a weird way, it’s kind of “so left wing it curled round the back and ended up on the far right”.

          If you think of “left wing” as in “we support Pol Pot, Stalin, Putin etc” rather than “let’s open a community-run vegan art cafe to promote understanding between diverse social groups”.

          Wikipaedia article here

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            “let’s open a community-run vegan art cafe to promote understanding between diverse social groups”.

            It wasn’t a vegan art cafe, but the town I grew up in opened a community-run “Peace and Justice Center” that was a direct evolution from the protest camp that was set up at the start of the 1992 Iraq war. It lasted about 2 months because they had no idea what a peace and justice center was supposed to do. They did let several homeless people sleep there in violation of zoning regulations, though.

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            I agree with your characterisation, but obviously I think that version of left-wing isn’t really left. It’s state capitalism with a red flag.

            That said, I’d add that the anarchist and other libertarian leftists (ancaps stole the word libertarian from the left btw) absolutely have revolutionary aims and activities, we aren’t just sitting around singing kumbaya. I didn’t sense you were trying to belittle us but I wanted to add that.

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              You’re right to give it a little more detail - my slightly silly summary skipped over a lot.

              Definitely not trying to belittle anyone, though I am slightly poking fun at myself :)

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                Got it, that was the vibe you gave off but also since we’re trying to educate I thought I’d be a bit pedantic about it :)

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          There’s two definitions, the former means redfash who overlook the fascist elements of former socialisms, particularly those of Marxist-Leninist orientation. (the fact they use tankie rather than redfash should tell you they’re not entirely comfortable using fascist as a pejorative, want to guess why?)

          The latter is basically a dog whistle used by reactionaries to mean communist. Basically a synonym of “woke” for those not overtly racist and applies to anyone with left-of-hitler politics. Think your blue maga types who swear they’re progressive.

          Regardless, the word was invented by the CIA to sew division among the left and should not be used by anyone.

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        yep, and yet somehow reddit never does anything about the report abuse for the ‘self help’ thing which id get dozens of PM’s a day about at one point, reported them and nothing was ever done about it

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        If you approach things from a scientific perspective, the meaning of harassment is just “political speech I don’t like”. Some kinds of political speech, like protests and appeals, are important and should be allowed, but can easily be labelled harassment. Other kinds of political speech, like sexual harassment or hate speech, are bad. “Harassment” as a word isn’t a useful one. Two people having a fight are harassing each other, regardless of who’s right. We have created a society that hates political speech and welcomes the use of state and corporation violence to suppress dissenting politics.

        I don’t say this from a place of callousness. I’ve been a victim of the most vicious harassment and it’s given me PTSD. And what I learned from the experience is, talented manipulators and people with social power will always benefit from being able to call political speech harassment.

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          harassment is just “political speech I don’t like”

          Some communities on Lemmy have switched to calling it “misinformation”. As in: you provide links to reputable sources to support your point, and it’s “misinformation”.

          Harassment seems to be more of a label for “too many people downvoted you, and you still dared to answer”.

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            That explains why a troll tried ban baiting me for “disinformation” when I said something they didn’t like.

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            Yeah, that’s better. Misinformation covers situations like defamation and many kinds of hate speech. Although there still needs to be a solution for stalking and sexual harassment, as long as it doesn’t overlap and outlaw protest or deplatforming.

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              Misinformation covers situations like defamation and many kinds of hate speech.

              Not really:

              • Misinformation: “false information that is spread, regardless of whether there is intent to mislead.”
              • Disinformation: “deliberately misleading or biased information; manipulated narrative or facts; propaganda.”

              The difference is between “I don’t believe you, so you get banned” vs. “I think you’re trying to mislead people, so you get banned”.

              Misinformation allows banning any information a mod believes to be “false”, for whatever reason, no matter the proof.

              (PS: if any mod doesn’t agree with these definitions, they could remove this comment based on “misinformation”)

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      God that’s actually worse than my banning (I posted a Google Streetview link of a layby). Incredible. Has anyone ever appealed and won? Ever?

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        Yes, I did. But only because multiple subreddit mods, including all of the mods in the subreddit that triggered the ban, got behind me due to the bullshit nature of the ban.

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        I won my appeal once. I was banned for “hate speech”. I was literally being 100% sarcastic against someone who was truly being a hateful shithead. I assume I was banned by an idiot who doesn’t understand sarcasm exists, but unbanned by someone who has talked to another human before.

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          Person: “nien! slur slur

          You: “don’t be a cracker”

          Reddit: “Your comment has violated hate speech rules”

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      I really need context before I can get on the “mods bad” wagon for this one

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    Sorry, I don’t know where or how I broke the rules, can you show and explain it to me?

    No

    But then how will I avoid breaking rules in the future?

    Yes

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    Nothing new, actually. When I was banned years ago (suspiciously after calling out some astroturfing), they didn’t give a reason either.

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      I pointed out that the Australian subreddits were being very obviously astro-turfed. And then I made a post naming the Aus PR companies that were openly running bot campaigns on Reddit and who was using them.

      That account got banned in record fucking time lol. And no reason was given either, it was a site-wide IP ban. Luckily one call to my ISP and that was sorted lol.

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        They welcome the evasion since they don’t actually want their number of ad impressions going down. They were just letting you know that under no circumstances were you to show anyone what’s behind the curtain.

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        Mind if I ask how long ago you were banned? It seems like over the last 6-9 months nationalist subreddits have ended up with a huge amount of sway in gettting people banned for arguing with them.

        IP ban isn’t the only way they can get you though. I’ve had them catch me out even with a fresh IP. They fingerprint browsers, using their own implementation of backend Google captcha (you don’t connect to gstatic.com, but redditstatic.com).

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          I think they use the email too. I once made a second with the same email and it was fine for a few minutes and then banned. I hadn’t voted or commented on anything yet.

          Then I made another with a brand new email on a different service and it too was banned pretty quick before I engaged with anything. That one I think was fingerprinted because my home IP changes every couple months naturally, so I wasn’t on the same IP that would have been banned. Also sometime around then I started using a VPN and it was still banned, so I’m thinking it was a fingerprint.

          At that point I was kinda over it but I was curious about the system. So I tried once more with another new service email, on a different IP from being on a mobile away from home. That one worked. It probably still works, but I don’t remember it or the password or the email I made for it. So it’s out there somewhere, but I don’t care any more because this all finished up around the time reddit killed third party apps, so I found this and my app came over, so I just entered the fediverse.

          I still have my NSFW account there which does still have all of my niche interests in far greater supply than I’ve found here so far. I’ve got my NSFW account here, but all the communities die pretty quick, so it’s not much use yet.

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            Somewhat, yes. I had a bunch of alts that used similar emails, they all got axed, but one was spared, perhaps because I never clicked to confirm the email. Then I suspect they linked any remaining or new accounts with different emails via a recent desktop browser.

            It was kind of cool looking into when everything was banned. Accounts I hadn’t logged into for years had been banned, all together - but not immediately with the first main ban.

            I think IP alone isn’t enough for them to decide to ban, though.

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      sounds about right. I got perma banned for “harassment” for essentially saying spez is a piece of shit lol

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        I got perma banned because I’ve gotten 4 or 5 accounts banned over the years for being toxic and harassing people. I made a joking “call to violence” and they hit me with a perma.

        Meh. I deserved it for sure. If they let me back on the platform I’d do it again 😈

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            Thanks! Yeah there are some other websites where people share their reddit troll victims and funny comment threads where people are losing their minds. It’s a fun little game to see how many people you can get.

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          It’s so weird how people want to downvote you for trolling shitty Reddit. If you love it so much, go back?

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            I can’t go back :( they fingerprinted my computer, phone, email, all of it. Allegedly I can go to a library and make a new account with a burner email but I haven’t tried.

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              They can’t fingerprint your computer, that’s a lie that Moderators tell to non-techsavy users to discourage ban evasion, just use the browsing history data you and the browser voluntarily give them, use Reddit through Tor and it won’t be effective, you can harass their admins constantly and they can’t do a thing about it, just keep banning the accounts (unless they want to Ban Tor which I don’t forsee happening at least for a while).

              Just don’t try pushing your luck because if you say anything too evil (i.e. threats of mass violence, mass destruction, violence or harm against the government, etc.) Dpeartment of Investigation, FBI, or Secret Service could still come after you with Tor.

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    Yea this recently happened to me. A had an argument with a mod and he reported a non offensive comment I had on his subreddit as a ban evasion. I got suspended for ban evasion despite not having another account. After my suspension ended he reported the exact same comment again giving me a second suspension. After the 3rd time I got banned entirely. 10+ year account with no prior suspensions/bans just gone because of one mod. Between that and RIF being gone, I’m just done with reddit.

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      Also ran afoul with a mod. Merari01 specifically. I reported one of his comments, and he sent it up as abuse of the report button. Insta perma banned. My account was registered in 2010.

      Reddit’s been awful for a while though so the loss wasn’t too bad.

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        The only good thing that came out of the API protest was watching AwkwardTheTurtle and iBleeedOrange get stabbed in the back and purged from the site by Spez.

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          I’m IP banned. doesn’t matter if it’s a new email, or device. I’ve tried many times and my accounts always get banned within 48 hrs. I haven’t tried getting a new modem yet, cause I don’t care that much about reddit.

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    The mods over there are hardcore power trippers. And when I say power trippers, I really mean capricious, vindictive, hypocritical, arbitrary cunts.

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      They are over here too! A mod on world news on lemmy.ml was saying that Ukraine probably bombed their own people yesterday. Then when evidence came out that it was Russia he deleted his comment and everyone’s involvement with the conversation calling him out

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        Dude, lemmy has a modlog that shows you everything.

        Open the webpage, scroll to the bottom.

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            Maybe not. However it would be hard to say whether this is malicious or whether it’s just a development oversight on a pre-1.0 version. Or just the moderator’s lack of due action.

            Either way, though, I’d prefer no notification but a mod log to reddit’s way, where sometimes they would notify you but other times they would shadow ban.

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          Yeah I know, but unless you regularly go there to search for your name you might be shouting into the void for a month before you realize no one is hearing.

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        Lemmy is worse on one hand and better on the other. You could be banned from an instance for much more spurious reasons than you’ll be banned on Reddit, but you then you can just move to another instance.

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          I’ve had the opposite experience.

          On Reddit I’ve actually had to self-censor my comments to avoid them from being nuked from orbit by Automoderator. I legit can’t use words like ‘incel’, ‘OnlyFans’, ‘e-girl’, ‘Trump’ etc on most subreddits. It actually feels liberating to be able to speak my mind here.

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          Idk about much more spurious reason, could just be a specific mod thing that you came across on here but not on reddit. I could be wrong but I don’t see any reason lemmy would be worse on this metric.

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            By spurious I mean there is a wider pool of weaker reasons for banning.

            Would you think the frequency and application of bans on say lemmygrad would be more or less spurious than Reddit or lemmy.world, for example?

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    It’s almost like total control over content and no recourse is the goal! Garbage company, move on from it…

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    Stop! You’ve broken the law!

    Chances are you engaged in one of the following:

    Arguing an objectively correct viewpoint with a moron.

    Engaged in political sarcasm.

    Made use of hyperbole, facetiousness, or facetious hyperbole.

    Made a mod look stupid on their alt. account.

    Hurt a fascists feelings.

    Engaged in dark humour. (It’s like food, not everybody gets it.)

    Engaged in anti-reddit activism.

    Or just cause.

    If you’re feeling vindictive you can still request your data under GDPR every 30 days even on banned accounts and they have to comply by law.

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      Make sure you leave a bad review on the play/app store too, there’s so many negative reviews ‘absolute trash’ appears as a review topic

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    My guy, at this point you’re only abusing yourself. Time to look at the writing on the wall, that site died months ago (or years ago in my opinion), you will only suffer using it.

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        It’s crazy to think or maybe my memory is misremembering history a little bit(?), but for Reddit users in general it was like “it’s sad to leave this platform after +10 years” but with Digg it was mostly “yeah…fuck this place went to hell, I’m out!”

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    Isn’t it trivial anyway, since you can still create unlimited anonymous accounts via old.reddit? I guess getting banned may actually matter for the subs that have a karma minimum to post, but…

    …You could also just not use reddit.

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      Isn’t it trivial anyway, since you can still create unlimited anonymous accounts via old.reddit?

      wait, you can do that? does it check IP?

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        Yes but IP is less useful nowadays as a way to identify users. VPNs are commonplace now, everyone has at least two or three IPs (their home, their mobile, their work/school), more than one person can be using the platform in the same place, etc.

        Not to say they don’t pay attention to that but it’s not enough on it’s own.

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          sweet. well ill give it a shot for education and see how long it lasts. when i was permabanned my old alts also got banned within a few days (even though i hadnt used them in months)

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        It checks IP for things like you trying to boost your own posts. Beyond that it’s fine.

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        I had over 10 different reddit accounts throught the years. Few of them were banned from certain subs but I just came back later with a different account and they never banned me again. I’m using a VPN though.

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          sweet. new test account on old reddit good so far, I’m expecting to wake up to it banned. will see. no VPN

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            If you use it from the same IP, browser, device, or App, that you have previously used with any banned account, then you’ll likely get it banned for ban evasion.

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              yeah banned again, took about 12 hours. lovely aggressive message about my ‘multiple, repeated violations’. VPN sounds better idea, tried it once but was also banned again quick, someone suggested the IP might have previously been used for similar things

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      It’s never been something I’ve done, and I can’t say I really care, but that would make it difficult to comment in subreddits with a karma threshold.

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        Well there’s subreddits created specifically for garnering enough karma to post around Reddit.

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        Sure, you can close your eyes and live in a make believe world. But Reddit clearly still has a ton of activity.

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          And that activity will MySpace itself just as fast. It seems to me that’s their goal. All that investment money hates free speech.

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            I can not see any decrease in activity, but I am only active in one sub, so I don’t know. From all I hear… they are fine for now.

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              If you go to the modcoord subreddit, that is not the case everywhere. There have been several posts from mods complaining that their numbers are down, and they’re spending all their time modding to combat bot accounts. Reddit recently implemented a social credit score as well that not even mods can access. And they were vague as hell about what would make your score high/low.

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              Reddit’s u/spez liked what Musk was doing with Twitter 𝕏… just look at how that’s going, to know where Reddit is heading.

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                No question, but I see a ton of activity on Reddit. A few 10’000 moving to Lemmy is not going to matter for now.

                Also: just call it Twitter.

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                  Lemmy is possibly over 300K now, with the whole fediverse over 12 million, but maybe only 4 million active. Reddit claims 1.7 billion active users, while some sources claim they only have 300M.

                  It’s really BS counts anyways, they don’t count interactions, or quality of interactions. From my time on Reddit, the quality had been going steadily down, then took a nosedive around 2021.

                  And even on TV they call it “X, formerly Twitter”, so that’s going to be it. They should register the x-formerly-twitter.com domain 😈

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                  There actually were no bots on Reddit when it first went online (were bots a thing in 05?). But Alexis and Steve both admitted to having multiple accounts to post links for those first few weeks to make it seem like there were more users than there actually were. Remember back when it first went online all you could do was post news articles. No comments, gifs, pics, or subreddits. It wasn’t until someone created Imgur for the express purpose of being able to post pictures on Reddit that you were able to do so.

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    I got banned from Reddit while I was on a work trip to the USA. Hadn’t posted in over a year at the time. I’m absolutely mystified as to why.

    They refer you to the content policy but they won’t tell you which post might violate it. I asked a few times what it was that caused the ban, but they either just referred to the content policy or once they said “Repeated violations”. I actually requested my user data so I could stick up my complete post history publicly and see if anyone else could figure it out. My username was / is sirdeadbeef on reddit.

    I haven’t put any work into displaying them nicely, this is the format you get them in if you request your data:

    https://db.osoal.org.nz/reddit/