The 4B movement, which originated in South Korea, is described as a feminist movement against the patriarchy and has been gaining steam on social media in the U
  • affiliate@lemmy.world
    38·
    8 hours ago

    it’s interesting to see the summaries become more inaccurate and incendiary as you change the “bias” from left to right.

    left wing summary:

    • The 4B movement began in South Korea in 2019, advocating against heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, and sexual relationships with men.
    • Supporters aim to boycott a system they believe promotes gender inequity, seeking control over their lives.
    • The movement’s potential expansion to the U.S. Is seen as a response to perceived threats to women’s rights following an election.

    right wing summary:

    • A group of American liberal women launched the “4B Movement” to boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
    • The movement is a protest against perceived threats to women’s rights, including concerns about abortion rights and gender equality.
    • The effectiveness of the “4B Movement” in causing political change is currently uncertain, as it primarily aims to make a statement.

    notice how the left wing summary properly states that this is a movement that started years ago in korea, and that it’s something that women in the US are adopting due to the recent election. meanwhile, the right wing summary falsely claims that the movement was created by “American liberal women”. it also claims that the movement was created to “boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump”, which is just not true from the other things i’ve read. everything else seems to indicate that the 4B movement is about boycotting relationships with all men, not just trump supporters. but maybe i’m wrong about that last point.

    • Taleya@aussie.zone
      21·
      4 hours ago

      The fact that neither side even breathes the word Lysistrata explains a lot about how you got there

      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 hours ago

        i can forgive people for not referencing an ancient comedy that would take an entire paragraph of preamble to explain its relevant before making a point about a fictional story from a long time ago.

        it’s not like it was a history.

        • Taleya@aussie.zone
          3·
          2 hours ago

          “In a move straight out of lysistrata, an ancient greek comedy where women withold sexual favours to stop a war”

          I literally read that shit as part of a three month subject in year nine

  • RangerJosie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    241·
    8 hours ago

    Godspeed to them.

    Let’s get those birth rates lower than Japan and Korea.

    We can do this! America numba 1!!!

    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
      1·
      41 minutes ago

      Neither of my two kids wants kids (one is ace/aro), so it ends with me. And if I’d had been more tuned in politically in 2006 and had thought about it for half a tick, I don’t know that I would have chosen to have kids in the first place.

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
    574·
    10 hours ago

    I definitely support women’s rights and will always believe in their unfettered right to decide their own reproductive choices. I was worried when I first read this, however. If the only people having children are the fascists and their enablers, I fear the future will be even more bleak than the present. That said, this story does seem to indicate the movement is more based around not having children with Trump voters which I find completely reasonable.

  • AllNewTypeFace
    44·
    10 hours ago

    Which will work until Project 2025 recodifies rape as a property crime against a woman’s male guardian.

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      38·
      10 hours ago

      A “women are property” sign showed up in Texas, complete with a reference to old Jewish law via Romans.

      In Sunday school I learned that when Jesus arrived it was now his way not the Old Testament way. And yet. Lewis Black has a whole stand up bit regarding his utter confusion at Christians wanting to tap into his god, who he describes as “a real son of a bitch”.

      In the context of what is about to happen in America, it makes complete sense. It’s a cherry picked excuse to treat us as prized livestock.

      Legacy is a commodity. I would argue it’s the ultimate commodity. And men don’t have choice there unless it’s given to them by a women. Or an abortion ban, wherein rapists now get to choose. Put the pieces together and legacy, in conjunction with traditional male roles attached to that will be sitting in the center.