Conservative forums are talking about rounding up immigrants, letting women die in clinics and stripping people of their rights and dismantling Democracy.
Here on the “left” lemmy, we’re arguing whether calling out hypocrites is a step too far we’ve got to be respectful after all!
This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…
Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!
“If a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance”
So yeah, call these intolerant hypocritical assholes out!
That’s the paradox of intolerance though.
If you don’t tolerate intolerance, you are intolerant.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
The paradox of tolerance is poorly named. Tolerance is part of the social contract and one that breaks the contract is no longer protected by it. The intolerant are excusing themselves from the contract and the rest of us can and should exclude them from the society they harmed.
This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
— Charles Bukowski
Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!
This made me think of this 20s clip from Thor: Ragnarok.
Sounds like Ole Chuck was paraphrasing possibly my favorite poem which is also totally appropriate for our times. That is “The Second Coming”.
I’m not gay, but the idea of outing ANYONE in the LGBTQIA+ community has long been a cardinal sin, enough so that it destroys careers and forces them to be almost globally shunned. I would imagine that for many there is a deep-set conflict between outing someone that has wronged them, and not outing someone that would likely want to be accepted elsewhere where they don’t need to pretend to be something they aren’t.
The problem with outing someone is that it risks subjecting them to discrimination and bigotry by homophobic assholes. Shunning it as a cardinal sin is a defense mechanism to protect each other.
If right-wing bigots hide behind those protections, while being part of the problem that necessitates them in the first place, they deserve no protections.
Just do what I do.
Step one be bicurious
Step two enable “everyone” as love interests on your dating apps
Step 3 match with cops, servicemen and tons of Latin men ( Latin men like me idk why)
Step 4 get my hole wrecked by said matches due to bi curious
Step 5… profit??? Idk i can’t really move cuz wrecked hole
Thank you for your (buttholes) service.
You forgot the record-for-blackmail part
Oh honey trust me there were plenty of black males, i don’t discriminate 😘
Yet you start mentioning race when the word “black” is used.
Ya know what bye bye forever. One look at your profile shows you consume nothing but the worst of the worst types of news and media. You need help.
Lmao. People nowadays.
Aw I’m sorry you can’t take a joke. Kindly fuck off now plz while the adults laugh
This made me lol
If a closeted person is passing laws, making policy, or using their platform to the LGBTQIA+ community, then outing is self-defense.
Thank you for your service, gay men. o7
Careful now. Outing people against their will is how you get Peter Thiel.
He was already a piece of shit before he was outed.
True, but I don’t think he was “weaponize Hulk Hogan” level.
I can assure you that Mr. Thiel has always been a horrible person.
TIL Thiel is gay. Yay for representation?
I’ll never understand why people use conservatives for anything but pump and dumps.
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Straight, in this situation, is code for too conservative to admit to having sex with men.
The Dicks - Saturday Night at the Bookstore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ux5Ma9BzRA
Edit: shit I didn’t know Gary died
I hate trumpers and all, but this is gonna lead to suicides and is essentially just outing gay people to cause them harm, even bodily harm. I was raised to think that was wrong, but I guess if it’s done by you it’s ok?
Ah yes, but republican gay people. So only gay people who support things like Project 2025, which basically wants to eradicate the entire concept of homosexuality.
As far as I understood it at least
The Post said “conservative” which is a bit broad. There are lots of conservative straight men and women who aren’t homophobic or against LGBTQ people. Republican is less broad. Far right now specific and so on.
Well, I agree it is broad, yeah.
But, like… we’ll see if there’s gonna be any republicans trying to distance themselves from Trump. There were lots who endorsed Harris and who refused to endorse Trump, but not endorsing Trump just isn’t enough with this level of threat to democracy, imo.
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” ― Desmond Tutu
I’m personally a fan of the MLK Jr quote, along the same lines:
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.
Oh fuck that’s true enough. Personally to me that is.
Sucks that being anything other than straight is a health risk for large segments of the population.
That being said, enabling or fostering that same risk isn’t in their best interest. If they’re unable to be the change they want to see in the world, then who do they expect to stand up for them?
I don’t think there is any valid excuse to force somebody to “come out of the closet” against their will, even hypocrisy. It’s their choice to come out, not anybody else’s.
I would expect that gay men, given the massive prosecution that they’ve been subject to in the past (and still are in many countries nowadays), would share that feeling, but maybe it’s because I’m from a generation that grew up at a time when homophobia was absolutely normal and later lived in places which weren’t like that at all were I’ve met gay men who had left their own countries in order to be able to be with the people they loved, and were I figured out just how unfair and casually nasty I had been in the years before.
Doing this kind of thing thinking you’re holding a high moral ground because the other person is in some way immoral is exactly the kind of thinking extreme religious types have when they go after, amongst others, homosexuals.
As much as I dislike conservatives, I dislike even more doing this shit to somebody and the kind of person who would do so.
Fuck that. People have a right to know if the people that make being gay illegal are also then criminals themselves.
If a bloke supports stripping of my rights, why would I respect his? Let him see what it’s like. May be he’ll learn a lesson, or at least be an example for others.
Alternate take: Don’t vote for hate and ask for love.
yeah, fuck that. if you’re spewing hatred and trying to control women directly or indirectly, you get what you fucking deserve. you couldnt leave people alone to live their lives without forcing your way in, so fuck you, open that closet door and expose them for their hypocrisy and bigotry.
them being gay isn’t the problem, they could have chosen happiness also and treated people the way they wanted to be treated, but injecting your hatred to a topic that you yourself are in? some single digit IQ moves.
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If outing conservatives for their projection materially changes anything, it will be a first. That said, I fully support this endeavor.
The Roy Cohns of the world deserve to get exposed, IMHO.
“Straight”
Still relevant onion
https://theonion.com/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-1819583529/
Hey $20 is $20
It’s not gay if you don’t marry.
And you keep your socks on.
You know that straight man is wearing thigh-highs with lace. Socks, pssshh ;)
“I’m not gay, I’m just a man who really likes the taste of sweaty balls and the feel of a hard cock in my ass.”
This describes 90% of the user base on Grindr in my area.
I’m guessing that’s pretty common.
That’ll be $9,999
The scariest part of this movement for me is being targeted because somebody thought I was conservative. *shudder*
I’ve been getting this for the last few years because I look conservative. Sigh. Seems like it will soon get worse.
My father sometimes complains that he cant wear his red fishing hat anymore, because unless you pay close attention to the different design on the front, it looks like a maga hat.
It’s just like the American flag.
Anymore if I see someone have an abundance of American flags flying, or stickers/bumper stickers I don’t assume they’re patriotic I assume they’re a racist bigoted trump supporter.
Damn racists stole the American flag the way they think gays stole the rainbow.
The red hats that say “made you look” make me laugh, but I haven’t wanted to buy one because they look a little too convincing 😔
I saw one that said black lives matter, and chuckled. Well played
its dangerous for us fred durst cosplayers
Just one of those days…
My poor 49ers cap…
I have an old red “Redhat” hat (of the linux variety), that I haven’t worn in years.
He’s conservative (voted for Trump)?
No, thats the thing, he doesnt want people to think he’s a trump supporter, and hates that if he wears this old hat he used to really like people will think its a trump hat
Sad that he’s yet another casualty. Hopefully he’ll find another favorite hat until this whole mess blows over.
I’m 6’3, 300 pounds, built like a linebacker. Shaved head. There aren’t a lot of clothes that look good on me and actually fit (finding a shirt long enough is hell). I tend to wear jeans and wife beater with an unbuttoned collared shirt in the summer, and flannel in the winter. I also tend to wear the shoes the podiatrist gives me (for now. So long medical insurance after 2025).
I have 100 percent been confused for a skin head on numerous occasions. If I’m leaving Walmart after dark, women will rush to their cars if I have to pass close by. I don’t blame them. It sucks, but I’m glad they’re acting on their safety over my feelings. But it does still hurt my feelings. :/
I hear you friend. I’m 200 pounds 6’ even. I’m bald so I shave my head. On the funny side rarely people thank me for my service, or more often tell me I forgot my military discount.
On the not so fun side it makes it difficult to buy drugs, and I love drugs.
Have you tried Carhartt shirts they tend to have longer lengths of shirts
I would also suggest Duluth trading. It’s been my go to for a long time. Similar in quality to Carhartt but has more material options. Their dry on the fly line of stuff is 90% of what I wear.
Their underwear and pants are amazing. I’m wearing them right now. Check it out. Well worth the money
Yea I have the dry on the fly pants and shorts. I know the undies are supposed to be good but I’m 100% on exofficio.
Same! The extra seam on the shoulder is so comfy, it fits so much better than a standard tee
100%, get the “tall” size
If you’re 300 lbs, there’s no way you’re built like a linebacker. 240 is about max for a linebacker. I’m 6’4 and 220. You’re either muscle bound or built like a lineman.
I was a CB but same at 6’1, also been a Niners fan my whole life. Thanks to all the maga shitbags now a white dude in a red cap…not the best look. I feel terrible every time I’m walking through a parking garage and see a woman double time it to her car but I totally understand, it makes me despise conservatives that little bit more.
Kenneth jumpscare
i’ve never been comfortable with the usage of the term “outing gay men” in this specific fairly negative context.
their fallacy isn’t being gay – that by itself is nothing wrong and should never be associated with a public shaming exercise.
no, the problem in this scenario is their hypocrisy in denigrating other gay men for their activities while indulging in those activities themselves.
this whole series of events should be called “exposing the hypocrisy of loud-mouths” instead of “outing gay men”.
It’s not outing gay men, it’s outing gay conservatives, which already has the loud mouth hypocrite angle covered.
