• Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    “The Chinese came, and they stole all our gubbins!”

    “We must tell the media! they will help us!”

    OpenAI… probably.

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    Welcome, new industry heads. That’s how it works. China takes a car, picks it apart and builds a cheaper car. That’s what they’ve been doing for decades now.

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      That’s par for the course, but it’s hilarious that openai “we have to get copyrighted material for free because fuck you” is pulling that defense now.

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      We got angry when Japan did this in the 60s and 70s. I’m going to paste part of the opening from Neal Stephenson’s “Snow Crash.”

      Why is the Deliverator so equipped? Because people rely on him. He is a roll model. This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing, you got a problem with that? Because they have a right to. And because they have guns and no one can fucking stop them. As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world. When it gets down to it – talking trade balances here – once we’ve brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they 're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here – once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel – once the Invisible Hand has taken all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity – y’know what? There’s only four things we do better than anyone else

      • music
      • movies
      • microcode (software)
      • high-speed pizza delivery

      The Deliverator used to make software. Still does, sometimes. But if life were a mellow elementary school run by well-meaning education Ph.D.s, the Deliverator ’ s report card would say: “Hiro is so bright and creative but needs to work harder on his cooperation skills.”

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      I’m kinda reminded of the tale of how the Zilog Z80 processor chip had dozens of little “tricks” built into it. It was being produced in Japan which at the time was famous for their chip production and for copying chip designs. Apparently their little tricks were baffling enough that it delayed the appearance of knock-offs chips by half a year.

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      looks at all my non-critical electronics…

      enshitification smells like Chineseium

      That said, I like cheap non-critical crap

  • mEEGal@lemmy.world
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    There’s substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI’s models […]

    I will explain what this means in a moment, but first: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    LMFAOOO 😂😂

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    It sounds like they just followed the precedent set by American companies. Maybe don’t steal data and your data won’t get stolen?

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      I don’t particularly agree that LLMs are nothing more than spicy autocorrect nor is it the end all be all super tool that AI tech bros overhype to death. It’s somewhere in the middle with good usefulness and utility like any other tool as long as it’s used properly. Like any other tool.

      That being said, even if it was just a spicy autocorrect, it’s the best damn autocorrect I’ve seen in my life and won’t screw around with my ducking cuss words like the dumb autocorrect systems

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        I’m pretty sure the autocorrect ducking with fowl language is because it has those words specifically marked not to come up in autocorrect, because kids do also use phones too and that would be enough to cause enough of a stink that no company wants to deal with it.

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          You can also edit the list and make it so it doesn’t do it anymore either…

          Autocorrect is only as smart as the one using it.

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            Yeah, I changed my auto correct on my first smart phone like 15 years ago now and have propagated my user dictionary and rules forward automatically with every new phone since. I’ve made more edits on every single phone along the way, too. But never had to change the same thing twice.

            Any time it does something annoying, actually take the 3 seconds to fix it…

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              It’s also incredibly ironic how they state

              It’s somewhere in the middle with good usefulness and utility like any other tool as long as it’s used properly. Like any other tool.

              Then complain about “dumb autocorrect”. Like any other tool, when wielded incorrectly, it’s not gonna work lol.

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    Is there evidence that DeepSeek is an OpenAI distillate other than OpenAI and Co’s protestations?

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      It’s literally impossible. I tried to explain it here: https://lemmy.world/comment/14763233

      But the short version is OpenAI doesn’t even offer access to the data you need for a “distillation,” as the term is used in the LLM community.

      Of course there’s some OpenAI data in the base model, but that’s partially because it’s splattered all over the internet now.