But also Trump won because the “evil, stupid uncivilized masses” are all right-wing transphobes so the Dems have to be more right-wing next erection to sway voters?!
Am I getting this correct?
Electile Dysfunction
Almost as if by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the left enemies of liberals are at the same time too strong and too weak.
Simultaneously there are so few of us that we are not worth ceding any policy positions for.
I feel like fascists ought to know they are fash and that bothers me about liberals.
SPD thought they weren’t, then they murdered Rosa
expand dong
cost the Dems the 8===================================================D
This somehow broke mobile hexbear
have to be more right-wing next erection to sway
the Dems combatting electile dysfunction
sorry guys, I voted for trump 4683669 times as a bit
This election loss should have resulted in Dem infighting imo, instead of blaming the group that Harris told to fuck off.
I just checked and Stein ended up with 744,757 and de la Cruz got 138,095. West’s totals are negligible. But those are the leftist votes that probably matter.
The Dems lost by 3,005,137 votes. Harris got 72,953,282 and Trump got 75,958,419 votes.
In 2020, Biden won with 81,284,666 votes compared to Trump’s 74,224,319.
Biden won by 7,060,347 and Harris lost by 3,005,137. The leftist vote total is 782,852 and some change. There is no concevable way I can see that magic 6 digit number being the catalyst to Harris’ failure when Biden got 8,331,384 more votes. Those are the Dem votes. Not the Left waffling this time around.(Ok, subtract one vote because I did vote for Biden in 2020).
I’m not a numbers guy but this really just points at Dems not turning out to vote because Harris just isn’t likeable. Dems didn’t get a say in their candidate because Biden waited 2 months until election to step down and the DNC had to scramble to make Kamala look “hireable” even though she was one of the first to bow out during 2020 primaries. In that 2 months time, Harris managed to alienate the Muslim vote because she’s a terrorist, and when asked about whether trans people should exist, she said “it should be up to the states to decide” which is fucking exactly how we got to where we are with reproductive rights. Her saying that is a right-wing talking point. All she had to do was lie about it and she’d have appeared slightly more likable. But instead she supports genocide and wants to sweep my trans friends’ right to exist under the rug. Fuck her. She deserved to lose.
And why the fuck did RFK jr still manage to get 718,693 votes when he bowed out 3 months ago?
Sources:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election?useskin=vector
- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/president-results
- https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president
The left can’t even put aside their own differences half the time, how is anyone going to expect them to orchestrate a presidential sabotage?
Again, not a numbers guy so forgive any errors here.
This is why all the lefties who panicked and voted cop shouldn’t have.
need to re-run this analysis in swing states only for it to be convincing to libs
Death to America
It’s been done and stein votes are nowhere close to Kamala. So instead, people have started accusing leftists of voting Trump directly because a few people did vote for both people like AOC and Trump… Generally low information voters with no concrete principles - just vibes about liking “outsiders”, regardless of whether a supposed silver-spoon billionaire could ever even remotely consider an outside.
So instead, people have started accusing leftists of voting Trump directly because a few people did vote for both people like AOC and Trump
Dems: We need to dump our entire GOTV strategy into swing voters that will vote for either democrats or republicans.
Also Dems: Those swing voters splitting their ticket are pure evil.
“They’re pure evil and we need their votes” is a certified Dem classic
haven’t seen this re-done with final numbers
In Michigan Harris lost by 80K votes (netting 70K fewer votes than Biden in 2020), anti-genocide candidates got 50K (37K more than 2020)
In Wisconsin Harris lost by 29K votes (netting 30K more votes than Biden in 2020), anti-genocide candidates got 17K (16K more than in 2020)
In Pennsylvania Harris lost by 130K votes (netting 66K fewer than Biden in 2020), anti-genocide candidates got 34K (Greens were not on the ballot in 2020)
In North Carolina Harris lost by 190K votes (netting 4K more than Biden in 2020), anti-genocide candidates got 35K votes (23K more than 2020)
I’m not a statician by any means but my reading of the numbers is that Michigan seems to be the only of these states that you could argue that abstentions from 2020 plus the growth of anti-genocide parties could have actually cost Harris the state.
Edit: if every single voter in these states that the Dems lost between 2020 and 2024 voted for Harris, and every vote for anti-genocide candidates was a whole seperate vote for Harris (which is an absurd assumption), then the only one of these states that would flip to her would be Michigan. If Palestine was what drove all of these votes away from Harris (also an absurd assumption) then we can fairly conclusively say that the Democrats’ position on Palestine did not cost them WI, PA, and NC.
ignores non-voters
If they didn’t vote in 2020 then yes they are not included in these numbers because they’re unlikely to be Democrats that got pushed away from the party because of events in Palestine. Those voters that voted for Biden in 2020 and abstained voting this time around are included in these numbers however.
In two of these states Harris actually got more votes than Biden did four years ago. The gain in North Carolina is small enough that maybe it could be explained by changes in population or demographics and if adjusted for that she would have received fewer votes than Biden in 2020. Otherwise it seems fairly safe to say for all of these states except maybe Michigan that recent events in Palestine did not drive voters away from the Democrats between 2020 and 2024 because the Democrat’s losses from 2020 and third party voters don’t amount to more than Trump’s margin of victory.
Your argument hinges on people giving a fuck about the green party and PSL. I’m sorry, but the average person who has to commit to do elecotralism and stand in line for over 4 hours on a workday, they’re not voting for someone who has no chance of winning
I wasn’t arguing a position, just pointing out that Michigan is really the only one of those states from the graphic that the numbers might suggest the possibility of Gaza playing a role in changing the outcome of the state election. I personally don’t think it changed the outcome anywhere.
In arizona Kamabla lost by almost 200k, with all 3rd party votes (including libertarian) at around 35k
The enemy is both weak and strong, and Democrats change their position by shifting their rhetorical focus. Sounds familiar 🤔
history doesn’t rhyme, but it ecos
First as farce, second as another even dumber farce, and it just kinda keeps going like that.
Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do understand history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it while ignoring their warnings and advice.
You don’t understand!!1! If the Democrats return to their proud tradition of out-Hitlering Hitler, they’ll once again be able to flip Texas blue!
The year is 20XX, the dems believe Texas will go blue this year
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Banging the sign again in the post-season…
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Liberals are outnumbered 2-to-1 by non-voters. 50% of the electorate did not vote in 2020. Dems blew a billion dollars and have this to show for it. With over half the electorate not voting, where was the outreach? Where was the phonebanking and doorknocking? Like a fart in the wind…
But boy oh boy an avalanche of donation requests. No organizing, only donations :only-throw:
agitprop
Here are some non-doomer threads to breadpill your :LIB: friends and family
Lit for your weeping lib neighbors
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talking about 3rd partiesthat workers’ candidates are nominated everywhere in opposition to bourgeois-democratic candidates. As far as possible they should be League members and their election should be pursued by all possible means. Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled.
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I’m becoming more and more convinced they didn’t want to win. Obama got record turnouts because his entire campaign was centered around getting people registered to vote and going door-to-door.
Either current dems are incompetent and forgot 2008 or they remember and are deliberately doing the opposite.
We are so weak so as to not be worth catering to
But also so strong that we can convince millions not to vote
There is nothing wrong with this sentiment
Kamala would have won if the dang commies had just given the Dems their Viagra back
They’ll get it back when they give me the $1400 Joe Biden personally owes me. Fuck it, I’m not a charity, throw on 30% annual interest, call it an even $4000.
erection more like election
election
keep filthy language like this off hexbear 🤮
